@pettytalk saidIt doesn't matter if the elephant knows himself, inorder for anyone to grasp what is going on someone needs to be there that can see.
A good analogy. Let's at least hope the elephant knows itself.
It's like that old saying, "Know Thyself." Unless we know it wholly, we don't know it.
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If God is omnipresent, he will speak from all places, and not just through the Bible.
The Bible does indeed support the notion of an omnipresent God, a deity who is in all places at all times. I think it unlikely therefore that such an all powerful God would only speak to people through one particular book. (Especially if he wanted to reach all people in all times).
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIf you don't have the means to identify the speaker as the true one, then choosing to come at people in multiple ways as multiple sources is more confusing than not. God is not a God of confusion, we can get confused with the truth right in front of us let alone competing choices where the source is always under question, is that a god or God?
@pettytalk said
If God is omnipresent, he will speak from all places, and not just through the Bible.
The Bible does indeed support the notion of an omnipresent God, a deity who is in all places at all times. I think it unlikely therefore that such an all powerful God would only speak to people through one particular book. (Especially if he wanted to reach all people in all times).
@kellyjay saidYahweh, observing their city and tower, confounds their speech so that they can no longer understand each other, and scatters them around the world.
God is not a God of confusion, we can get confused with the truth right in front of us let alone competing choices where the source is always under question, is that a god or God?
(Somewhere in the Bible).
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThat was done for a specific cause, the tower of Babel in Genesis 11 Man wanted to build a tower up to heaven, and God came down and confused their language.
Yahweh, observing their city and tower, confounds their speech so that they can no longer understand each other, and scatters them around the world.
(Somewhere in the Bible).
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThere is a difference, one is an ongoing unknown choice of whoever is speaking could be or not God but simply a god a lifelong struggle; while the other is a singular event that affected everyone equally, so they had to disperse according to the new language skills. I heard this from someone discussing this dispersion it allowed our gene pool to create the different races instead of just the one by the moving away from the most dominate ones.
You said, and I quote:
"God is not a God of confusion,"
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidI'm interpreting it as an agreement. If such a god exists, and is everywhere, in every nook and cranny, it's more than possible that this omnipresent God would channel himself to all people, through all means of communications which the people are able to receive.
@pettytalk said
If God is omnipresent, he will speak from all places, and not just through the Bible.
The Bible does indeed support the notion of an omnipresent God, a deity who is in all places at all times. I think it unlikely therefore that such an all powerful God would only speak to people through one particular book. (Especially if he wanted to reach all people in all times).
Provided he makes himself understood to us, and also makes us aware, in one or another, that indeed he's God, we can have faith in his existence. I'm giving God a gender, only from my own personal convictions, and old habit of considering God a Father. For all we know, this all-present God could very well be a woman. And if we are to arbitrarily select a gender for addressing this God in speech, I would not object. But I would not like to address God as an it, for fear of eternal damnation. Although I don't really think a father would ever send any of his children to hell for all time. Maybe only 30 days in the hole, tops, for the baddest of his children. I would say that 30 days in hell is enough for anyone, including the devil himself. After all, with the Lord a day is as a thousand years for us.
@pettytalk saidEvil is hated by God, we only see evil as bad and not so bad it is so engrained into us we don't even recognize it more times than not we are so used to it. Perfect love will hate evil in the smallest degree., perfect love will always see evil for what it is and not accept it in any degree to suffer it to go forward. The cross of Christ we all can go to because God made a way to Him in Jesus Christ,
I'm interpreting it as an agreement. If such a god exists, and is everywhere, in every nook and cranny, it's more than possible that this omnipresent God would channel himself to all people, through all means of communications which the people are able to receive.
Provided he makes himself understood to us, and also makes us aware, in one or another, that indeed he's Go ...[text shortened]... r anyone, including the devil himself. After all, with the Lord a day is as a thousand years for us.