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Can good works only make you 'righteous' in the sight of God? Or anything you do on your own accord for that matter.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkThey were picked on the basis of their righteousness. God selected these people. Eg Nathanael: " .. Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! ..". So Nathanael was righteous in the sight of God.
Can we discuss that after you respond to the OP?
Originally posted by Rajk999So actually Jesus didn't have to die for all the good people?
They were picked on the basis of their righteousness. God selected these people. Eg Nathanael: " .. Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! ..". So Nathanael was righteous in the sight of God.
There are/were good people all over the world from Adam to now.. good people that do good works and live righteously. How they become righteous s ...[text shortened]... Claiming to believe and to have faith is insufficient as the bible states clearly several times.
Originally posted by Rajk999I see you went back and edited your post. Let's take your edited post:
I never said that.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkYou have a short memory because these questions you asked before and I responded.
I see you went back and edited your post. Let's take your edited post:
[b]Nobody is is righteous enough for the gift of eternal life from God. But to get the gift of eternal life, one must meet some minimum level of righteousness as defined by Jesus.
If the first sentence is true, then second one can't be true. It makes no sense.[/b]
Originally posted by Rajk999Yes and I pointed out the contradiction in your response, i.e. nobody is righteous enough for eternal life but some are righteous enough to meet the minimum level.
You have a short memory because these questions you asked before and I responded.
Look .. Im done .
Originally posted by Rajk999A statement made during the meeting does not mean that was the reason for him being
They were picked on the basis of their righteousness. God selected these people. Eg Nathanael: " .. Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! ..". So Nathanael was righteous in the sight of God.
There are/were good people all over the world from Adam to now.. good people that do good works and live righteously. How they become righteous s ...[text shortened]... Claiming to believe and to have faith is insufficient as the bible states clearly several times.
Originally posted by KellyJayWe also see that Peter fell down and besought Jesus to depart from him. He felt deeply unworthy. Who knows the secret sins which were on his conscience.
A statement made during the meeting does not mean that was the reason for him being
picked. It is simply a statement about the man, and no guile also does not mean he was
righteous before God, that is you inserting something into scripture that is not there as is
your habit.
" And when Simon Peter saw this [the miraculous catch of many fish] he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, Lord. " (Luke 5:8)
"Jesus answered them, Was it not I who chose you, the twelve? Yet one of you is a devil.
Now He spoke of Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, for he, one of the twelve, would betray him." (John 6:70,71)
Originally posted by sonshipAll people are sinners. Who is arguing that?
We also see that Peter fell down and besought Jesus to depart from him. He felt deeply unworthy. Who knows the secret sins which were on his conscience.
What Rajk999 says of Nathaniel we could not say was true of all the disciples. The arguable leader of them, [b]Peter, confessed on the spot that he was a sinful man.
[quote] " And when Simon P ...[text shortened]... f works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His own purpose [b](Titus 3:5)[/b]
Originally posted by Rajk999Romans 3: 10-12 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
All people are sinners. Who is arguing that?
Some are righteous and some are evil, but they are all still sinners.
Jesus knows who they are.
He chose 12 and 11 were righteous and 1 was evil... but all still sinners
Mans righteousness is not righteous enough for God. Again who is arguing that?
Jesus will welcome those who are righteous [sinners] in His ...[text shortened]... ghteous [sinners] into the Kingdom
Jesus said that. Feel free to ague with him if you disagree.