14 Dec 06
Originally posted by ahosyneyIt is not accepted by Christians because there is no evidence that it is not a made up story written long after the events by someone strongly biased by his own philosophy. (called a pious fraud in the wikipedia article)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas
Another view of Jesus life.
Edit: of course it is not accepted by Christians because it talks about different christianity
No, wait, then why do they accept all those other Gospels ?
14 Dec 06
Originally posted by twhiteheadNo, wait, then why do they accept all those other Gospels ?
It is not accepted by Christians because there is no evidence that it is not a made up story written long after the events by someone strongly biased by his own philosophy. (called a pious fraud in the wikipedia article)
No, wait, then why do they accept all those other Gospels ?
That is my point here, what is the difference between this Godpel and any other one.
Note: Muslims accept Jesus as a prophet, and they accept his Gospel, our problem is which one is the true Godpel.
14 Dec 06
Originally posted by PalynkaYes of course, and Bernaba is one of the disciples.
My point was that there were no Muslims at the time Barnabas lived.
But because the Gospel talkes about the Prophet Mohammed and say that Jesus is not GOD, and is not the Messiah, christians refuse it, and say it is written by Muslims.
It is not the only one that is refused, I think any Gospel that doesn't match the Christian belives will be refused , like the Judas gospel.
14 Dec 06
Originally posted by ahosyneyThat it isn't the only reason. There are many concrete reasons to believe it is a fraud, including a number of gross historical mistakes contained in the book.
Yes of course, and Bernaba is one of the disciples.
But because the Gospel talkes about the Prophet Mohammed and say that Jesus is not GOD, and is not the Messiah, christians refuse it, and say it is written by Muslims.
It is not the only one that is refused, I think any Gospel that doesn't match the Christian belives will be refused , like the Judas gospel.
14 Dec 06
Originally posted by PalynkaIf you compair the four Gospels accepted by all Christians you will find historical mistakes and contradictions between them. They don't agree in many essential details of Jesus life.
That it isn't the only reason. There are many concrete reasons to believe it is a fraud, including a number of gross historical mistakes contained in the book.
So how do you know which one tells the true history about Jesus life.
Another important point is at least two of the four gospels are written by non disciples and written in a period after Jesus life.
14 Dec 06
Originally posted by ahosyneyBecause many of the mistakes directly point to a forgery as they mention things that existed in Europe during the Middle Ages. You don't have to be a genius to raise an eyebrow.
If you compair the four Gospels accepted by all Christians you will find historical mistakes and contradictions between them. They don't agree in many essential details of Jesus life.
So how do you know which one tells the true history about Jesus life.
Another important point is at least two of the four gospels are written by non disciples and written in a period after Jesus life.
I'm not a Christian, so even though I don't believe in the Christian Gospels, I can perfectly see a vast difference between them and the Barnabas Gospel.
14 Dec 06
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Originally posted by PalynkaI agree with you and I don't argue that Bernabas Gospel is true. That is not my point, and I don't need to prove it is true, and may be it is really written by Muslims,
Because many of the mistakes directly point to a forgery as they mention things that existed in Europe during the Middle Ages. You don't have to be a genius to raise an eyebrow.
I'm not a Christian, so even though I don't believe in the Christian Gospels, I can perfectly see a vast difference between them and the Barnabas Gospel.
My point is the reasons Christians refuse this Gospel for could be found in the four Gospels they currently accept.
And there are other Gospels that don't have the same problems you can find in Bernabas and they also don't accept.
14 Dec 06
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Originally posted by ahosyneyOf course they don't accept it. It's a clear forgery.
I don't argue that Bernabas Gospel is true, that is not my point, and I don't need to prove it is true, and may be it is really written by Muslims,
My point is the reasons Christians refuse this Gospel for could be found in the four Gospels they currently accept.
And there are other Gospels that don't have the same problems you can find in Bernabas and they also don't accept.
Do you have any comments regarding the fact that the Barnabas gospel makes references to things that could only be known in the Middle Ages?
More importantly, do YOU accept it?
14 Dec 06
Originally posted by PalynkaMy I was not clear,
Of course they do. It's a clear forgery.
Do you have any comments regarding the fact that the Barnabas gospel makes references to things that could only be known in the Middle Ages?
More importantly, do YOU accept it?
I agree it might be forgery. I have no problem about that,
References to things in the middle ages, could prove it is forgery, and if you have faith it could be propheies 😀.
More importantly, do YOU accept it?
For me it doesn't make a difference, and I'm a Muslim before I ever heard about it. I don't need to accept it or reject it.
To accept it I need a prove that it is really a word from GOD, and I don't have this prove for any Gospel today. So I don't accept it.