There is NO burning hell. If you believe in that and do not understand what the bible means when it speaks of the "lake of fire" which is just a metaphor of complete and total destruction forever, which some also relate the word "hell" to, then you are damning the bible as a whole. This confusion is exactly what Satan wants and the result is exactly what we see here in this forum. Confusion to the max, everyone getting mad at each other and continuing on with the wars of religious beliefs.
No wonder why so many want nothing to do with God, the bible and religions and call all Christians fools.
If there was a real burning hell and a punishment that lasted forever then the human that started this down hill spiral that has affected everyone of us with sin and all misery that mankind has experienced with wars, mass shootings, man dominating man etc, then that person that should have been burning from the day he died was Adam. None of this worlds cruel history would never have existed down to this day if it wasn't for his decision to go against his creator.
But did that happen to him? No.......... if one were to use some common sense and get all the false teachings that Satan has brain washed so many with and get rid of them and read word by word exactly what the Bible says in Genesis the 3rd chapter where Jehovah explained very clearly what was going to happen to Adam for his sin.
Read this: 17 And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and ate from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. 18 It will grow thorns and thistles for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until ((((((( you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” ))))))
Now read this over and over as many times as you have too to understand this clearly.
Did God say anything at all about going to some unworldly place to burn forever???????????? NO.
What was going to happen to Adam? He as going to die and decompose back into the ground that he came from. This is the same exact place that the bible says all humans would go back to, dust or "the first death" until one is resurrected back to life to be judged. Once you are judged one of two things will happen to you. You will continue to live or you die and go back to dust, the second death and you will never live again. You are completely destroyed like fire does in the sense you will never exist again and no trace of you will be found.
All you guys keep arguing over is as simple as this. There is no mystery to it no matter how much you guys want there to be one.........
@galveston75 saidWas Jesus preaching a false doctrine in Luke 16?
There is NO burning hell. If you believe in that and do not understand what the bible means when it speaks of the "lake of fire" which is just a metaphor of complete and total destruction forever, which some also relate the word "hell" to, then you are damning the bible as a whole. This confusion is exactly what Satan wants and the result is exactly what we see here in th ...[text shortened]... simple as this. There is no mystery to it no matter how much you guys want there to be one.........
Was not the Rich Man tormented in flames?
@chaney3 saidIf there are no consequences for anything, what does it matter?
Why don't you pretend to be a Christian?
You are the worst, but your ego won't allow you to see it.
You're a joke
Worst problem with this world are people who don't believe in God and think they can do as they please without any consequences for the life hereafter as well as this life and those who believe in God and believe the same thing.
So go right ahead, test him.
@rajk999 saidNo and no. Do you even slightly understand this parable? t was not a real event but a parable told by Jesus to get a point across.
Was Jesus preaching a false doctrine in Luke 16?
Was not the Rich Man tormented in flames?
This is a perfect example of my last post. Not understanding what is in the Bible will never get you anywhere. Only by asking Jehovah will you ever get it right.
The name given to the beggar in Jesus’ illustration commonly known as the parable of the rich man and Lazarus.( Lu 16:19-31)
In the Vulgate the word “rich” has been rendered by the Latin adjective dives, which is often mistakenly used as the proper name of the rich man. However, the Jewish name Lazarus itself was common in ancient times, a fact borne out by glossary inscriptions.
In the parable, the ulcerous beggar, Lazarus, sat at the gate of the rich man, desiring to be fed with the things that fell from the rich man’s sumptuous table. Lazarus subsequently died and was carried off by angels to the bosom position of Abraham ( a place comparable to that occupied by
a person in ancient times when he reclined in front of another on the same couch during a meal).. Abraham had a conversation with the rich man, who had also died, was buried, and was in Hades, existing in torments.
“A great chasm”that could not be crossed separated the rich man from Abraham and Lazarus. The rich man’s request that Abraham send Lazarus to his five brothers to “give them a thorough witness,” in the hope of sparing them the same experience, met with rejection on the grounds that these had “Moses and the Prophets,” and, if unwilling to listen to them, “neither will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.”For Jesus’ illustration of the rich man and Lazarus, did he draw on rabbinic beliefs concerning the dead? Teachers and students of comparative religion have in some cases suggested that in giving this illustration, Jesus Christ drew upon the ancient rabbinic concept and teaching regarding the underworld. Josephus furnishes the following information regarding the then-current view of the Pharisees in this regard: “They believe that souls have power to survive death and that there are rewards and punishments under the earth for those who have led lives of virtue or vice: eternal imprisonment is the lot of evil souls, while the good souls receive an easy passage to a new life.” (Jewish Antiquities,XVIII,14[i,3]) However,Jesus flatly rejected false teachings, including those of the Pharisees. (Mt 23) Hence, it would have been inconsistent for him to frame his illustration of the rich man and Lazarus according to the outlines of the false rabbinic concept of the underworld. Consequently, it must be concluded that Jesus had in mind the fulfillment of the illustration and framed its details and movement in harmony with the facts of the fulfillment rather than according to any unscriptural teaching. The context and the wording of the story show clearly that it is a parable and not an actual historical account. Poverty is not being extolled, nor are riches being condemned. Rather, conduct,final rewards,and a reversal in the spiritual status, or condition, of those represented by Lazarus and by the rich man are evidently indicated. The fact that the rich man’s brothers rejected Moses and the prophets also shows that the illustration had a deeper meaning and purpose than that of contrasting poverty and the possession of riches.
Also if one were truly burning in a place of real fire, would one drop of water on ones tongue really help???????????
Think, think, think and then pray to Jehovah.
-Removed-Seriously? This is all you can get from this? Why do you refuse to learn anything? You are like a fast car. One that has got somethings dead right but then you're sitting on flat tires and you go no where.
I'm not here to argue and you don't get that. If you could only get a few more pieces right you'd finally understand the bible. But your pride and stubbornness kills you. And Rjak is in the same boat.
@galveston75 saidSo Jesus drew on a false doctrine perpetrated by the Jews in order to preach about death. So its the Jews who had these false doctrines. God sent Jesus to preach to the Jews and this is what Jesus preached? He just failed then and made a bigger mess of their doctrines.
No and no. Do you even slightly understand this parable? t was not a real event but a parable told by Jesus to get a point across.
This is a perfect example of my last post. Not understanding what is in the Bible will never get you anywhere. Only by asking Jehovah will you ever get it right.
The name given to the beggar in Jesus’ illustration commonly known as the ...[text shortened]... drop of water on ones tongue really help???????????
Think, think, think and then pray to Jehovah.
An you prayed and prayed and prayed and this is what Jehovah told you ?