Originally posted by sonhouseFirst of all we are termed Glaswegians, secondly, your somewhat emotive response
I wonder if you would say the same if it was 3000 Glasgow natives that were killed.
does not belie the fact that Bin Laden was Americas big time buddy when the
Mujahadeen were fighting the Soviets. Are you willing to deny this historical fact, no i
didn't think so, you have no case, your government like all imperial entities is a self
serving enterprise, fickle and responsible for the deaths of countless innocent people,
both foreign nationals and its own sons and daughters.
The post that was quoted here has been removedIndeed, while both are mass-murderers, Hitler far exceeds Bin Laden in terms of the numbers of people he had killed, directly or indirectly.
Robbie, is correct in that there had been several attempts to have Hitler, OBL assassinated. Could there have been a conspiracy to keep them alive? It is just as possible that if Hitler was assassinated, early on in his career, instead of a more competent leader arising, there could have been also a less competent leader; or at least a less murderous one.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBin Laden was Americas big time buddy when the Mujahadeen were fighting the Soviets
First of all we are termed Glaswegians, secondly, your somewhat emotive response
does not belie the fact that Bin Laden was Americas big time buddy when the
Mujahadeen were fighting the Soviets. Are you willing to deny this historical fact, no i
didn't think so, you have no case, your government like all imperial entities is a self
serving e ...[text shortened]... e deaths of countless innocent people,
both foreign nationals and its own sons and daughters.
Although this is sort of true it should be pointed out that according to Steve Coll, who wrote the Pulitzer prize winning book Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001, the CIA never met Bin Laden or many of the Afghans during that war. They just handed the money and weapons over to the ISI who then distributed it as they saw fit, most of it going into their own pockets.
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Originally posted by Proper KnobNo one meets 'the tall one', never the less, it was clear that the Afghanis got hold of
[b]Bin Laden was Americas big time buddy when the Mujahadeen were fighting the Soviets
Although this is sort of true it should be pointed out that according to Steve Coll, who wrote the Pulitzer prize winning book Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001, the CIA n ...[text shortened]... ver to the ISI who then distributed it as they saw fit, most of it going into their own pockets.[/b]
stinger missiles which had a horrendous effect on the mortality of the Soviets,
especially the choppers, and from where did they get them? our fickle friends the
Central Intelligence Agency!
The Central Intelligence Agency supplied nearly 500 Stingers (some sources claim
1,500–2,000) to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during Operation Cyclone, the Soviet
war in Afghanistan, beginning in September 1986[6] with the supply of 250
launchers.[7] Some sources claim the Stinger have had a decisive impact on the
war,[8][9][10] while other authors dismiss this argument.[6][11] In the following two
years, the Stingers fired by the Mujahideen, accumulated tens of Soviet helicopters
and fixed wing aircraft shot down. After the 1989 Soviet withdrawal from
Afghanistan, the United States attempted to buy back the Stinger missiles, with a 55
million dollar program to buy back around 300 missiles (US$183,300 each).[12] The
U.S. government collected most of the Stingers it had delivered, but some of them
found their way into Croatia, Iran, Qatar and North Korea.[13] According to the CIA,
already in August 1988 the US had demanded from Qatar the return of Stinger
missiles.[14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIsn't that what i just said?
No one meets 'the tall one', never the less, it was clear that the Afghanis got hold of
stinger missiles which had a horrendous effect on the mortality of the Soviets,
especially the choppers, and from where did they get them? our fickle friends the
Central Intelligence Agency!
The Central Intelligence Agency supplied nearly 500 Stingers (s ...[text shortened]... rom Qatar the return of Stinger
missiles.[14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger
'They just handed the money and weapons over to the ISI who then distributed it as they saw fit'
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Originally posted by Proper Knobyes it was, I merely fleshed it out so that our patriotic friends cannot dispute the
Isn't that what i just said?
'They just handed the money and weapons over to the ISI who then distributed it as they saw fit'
reality. I have not read the book that you mention but i am going to the library today
so ill see if they have it, sounds quite good and just the sort of thing i enjoy reading. I
just finished The Bridge, the life and rise of Barak Obama and now i am half way
through The rise and fall of the British empire, another self serving imperialistic all
encompassing megalith!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo, what? Can't you see the greater good?
yes it was, I merely fleshed it out so that our patriotic friends cannot dispute the
reality. I have not read the book that you mention but i am going to the library today
so ill see if they have it, sounds quite good and just the sort of thing i enjoy reading. I
just finished The Bridge, the life and rise of Barak Obama and now i am half way ...[text shortened]... and fall of the British empire, another self serving imperialistic all
encompassing megalith!
