Some do not believe that God exists.
Most of these hope that God does not exist imo.
Some people hope that if God does have a last judgment He will be prevented from doing so because it will be demonstrated or argued that it is illogical.
There is a hope in some that God will wake up one day and realize He is not wise enough to be a final Savior let alone Judge of all the world.
I do not believe logical problems will prevent God from either saving some from eternal judgment or conducting a last judgment.
Acts 17:30,31
"Therefore, having overlooked the times of ignorance, God now charges all men everywhere to repent.
Because He has set a day in which He is to judge the world in righteousness by the man whom He has designated, having furnished proof to all by raising Him from the dead."
Who hopes secretly that logic problems for God will prevent that day of judgment from taking place?
@sonship saidIt's such a feeble-minded premise for a thread!
Who hopes secretly that logic problems for God will prevent that day of judgment from taking place?
Atheists don't think God has "logic problems".
Atheists, if they are interested in the slightest, think that Christians have "logic problems" with the God figures they describe.
Atheists don't believe in God.
Gosh, sonship. What's the matter with you?
@sonship saidYour opinion is wrong and rather naive.
Some do not believe that God exists.
Most of these hope that God does not exist imo.
Blimey. Name names. Who here "hopes that God does not exist"? Boy, you've started some truly dozy threads of late.
Naming names is not obligatory.
You have come up with some doozy of questions of late.
But if you must have one name - Thomas Nagel.
“I hope there is no God!”
Thomas Nagel
“I speak from experience, being strongly subject to this fear myself: I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well-informed people I know are religious believers. It isn’t just that I don’t believe in God and, naturally, hope that I’m right in my belief. It’s that I hope there is no God! I don’t want there to be a God; I don’t want the universe to be like that. My guess is that this cosmic authority problem is not a rare condition and that it is responsible for much of the scientism and reductionism of our time. One of the tendencies it supports is the ludicrous overuse of evolutionary biology to explain everything about human life, including everything about the human mind ….
https://creation.com/thomas-nagel-i-hope-there-is-no-god
@FMF
You are the imo, another hoping there is no God.
Whether you're candidness approaches Mr. Nagel's, I don't know.
And I expect you to surely deny it.
And I will not argue with you about it.
You'll just have to live with my suspicion and I'll have to expect your denial.
@sonship saidNonsense. But feel free to project whatever you want onto me and then get all het up & HTML code about it. You are, after all, the poster who has frequently asserted that I - in fact - believe in Jesus, that I am angry with him for scrutinizing me, but I am lying to everyone about it.
You are the imo, another hoping there is no God.
@sonship saidThis kind of posting makes you sound like a creepy cult operative working from a manual for manipulating children or intellectually-challenged adults.
I expect you to surely deny it.
And I will not argue with you about it.
You'll just have to live with my suspicion and I'll have to expect your denial.
Some people seem to entertain a hope that if they can point out logical flaws in the concept of an altimate judgment, sending some believers in God away having been unable to answer all thier complaints, perhaps such arguments make it impossible for there to be a last judgment.
"There is this problem. Answer it Christian."
"There is that problem. Answer to that O Christian."
"What about this difficult scenario?"
"What about that other unanswered situation?"
As a Christian I do not claim there are not some unknowns.
However difficult to reconcile it may be to answer all these questions,
nevertheless:
"But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth upon those who practice such things." (Rom. 2:2)
There is truth.
And the last judgment of God is according to truth.
God has designated a day [of which all the possible details we do not know now] . But we may be certain it will come before Jesus Christ the One designated to conduct the last judgment "in righteousness" . He is also the Savior from eternal condemnation.
"Becauswe He [God] has set a day in which He is to judge the world in righteousness by the man whom He has designated, having furnished proof by raising Him from the dead." (Acts 17:31)
I do not suggest anyone thinking he can show problems in a flowchart with the logic that he hope God through Christ is unable to judge the world in righteousness.
@sonship saidThe matter of logical flaws is pretty much moot to people who don't believe eternal torture is real. The matter of logical flaws is simply one type of bread and butter for a debate and discussion forum.
Some people seem to entertain a hope that if they can point out logical flaws in the concept of an altimate judgment, sending some believers in God away having been unable to answer all thier complaints, perhaps such arguments make it impossible for there to be a last judgment.