I good enough for God's Kingdom because X

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Indeed Sir. Tell me more about your righteous actions. Have you never broken any of God's commandments?

Simul iustus et peccatoris

[simultaneously righteous and a sinner]

Keep up.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Thus sayeth the Gospel of Rajk. Amen.

As an atheist, I don't fare so well in your Gospel.

Awomen

Are you good enough because of how you act?
Are you good enough because your better than others?
What makes you good enough?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So you are Rajk999 undercover. I should have known. I suspected FMF and Twhitehead, but never you.

What am I "suspected" of exactly?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
As an atheist, I don't fare so well in your Gospel.

Awomen

Small wonder.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk to Ghost of a Duke an atheist
Indeed Sir. Tell me more about your righteous actions. Have you never broken any of God's commandments?

Has it been your experience when interacting with atheists that their definition of "righteous actions" are framed in terms of what you claim are "God's commandments"?

Originally posted by FMF
Has it been your experience when interacting with atheists that their definition of "righteous actions" are framed in terms of what you claim are "God's commandments"?

Only when they claim, "It is scripturally supported that God will excuse my unbelief and welcome me into his kingdom, based on the law that is instinctively written on my heart, governing my righteous actions."

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Only when they claim, "It is scripturally supported that God will excuse my unbelief and welcome me into his kingdom, based on the law that is instinctively written on my heart, governing my righteous actions."

In fairness, I did immediately deploy the smug emoticon to convey sarcastic swagger.

And it was not my claim. The 'claim' comes straight from the bible. Are you not familiar with that particular passage?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Only when they claim, "It is scripturally supported that God will excuse my unbelief and welcome me into his kingdom, based on the law that is instinctively written on my heart, governing my righteous actions."

Gosh. You're not very quick on the uptake are you? You did not understand Ghost of a Duke's meaning at all. 😕

edit: ah I see he has set you straight.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk to Ghost of a Duke an atheist
Indeed Sir. Tell me more about your righteous actions. Have you never broken any of God's commandments?

Are you in agreement with KellyJay who thinks that only Christians like him are capable of "righteous actions"?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
In fairness, I did immediately deploy the smug emoticon to convey sarcastic swagger.

And it was not my claim. The 'claim' comes straight from the bible. Are you not familiar with that particular passage?

When you say it is scripturally supported you are referring to the Bible as a whole or one passage that you have taken out of context?

Originally posted by FMF
Are you in agreement with KellyJay who thinks that only Christians like him are capable of "righteous actions"?

I have said before that people are capable of 'righteous actions' by their own standards since people can call anything they do 'righteous' since they are the sole judges of what 'righteous' means to them.

I think the real discussion is whether people's 'own righteousness' is can get them into heaven. I think the scriptures are clear that our best works are like filthy rags. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. So no, I don't think anyone even Kelly and myself are good enough on our own accord to get into heaven. No one is.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I have said before that people are capable of 'righteous actions' by their own standards since people can call anything they do 'righteous' since they are the sole judges of what 'righteous' means to them.

Gosh. I'm not sure why my question prompted such a clumsy dodge from you. I'll try again. Do you think that only Christians are capable of what are, in your view, "righteous actions"?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I think the real discussion is whether people's 'own righteousness' is can get them into heaven. I think the scriptures are clear that our best works are like filthy rags. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. So no, I don't think anyone even Kelly and myself are good enough on our own accord to get into heaven. No one is.

Blimey. The second half of your "answer" was a dodge as well. I didn't ask you if you think you and Kelly are good enough on your own accord to get into heaven. What I asked was: "Are you in agreement with KellyJay who thinks that only Christians like him are capable of "righteous actions"?"

Originally posted by FMF
Gosh. I'm not sure why my question prompted such a clumsy dodge from you. I'll try again. Do you think that only Christians are capable of what are, in your view, "righteous actions"?

Gosh which part of 'no one is capable of righteous actions' did you miss?