1. Standard memberKJCavalier
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    I am sharing this anyway. Unfortunately it does show a horrible example of modern day Christians in action. This is a sermon as well a a letter to be written to hundreds of churches here in the USA.


    Be Christ like. A Christian should aspire to be nothing less than Christ like. Prayer, our daily walk. Our daily talk. and our very actions. We as christians our changed people in Christ when we are saved. Show others Jesus through our every day walk, talk, and activities.
    Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
    We are looked at everyday on how we act, speak, and look. People do this every minute of every day. We are the children of God. We represent our Father in everything we do. We should at every point put our best forward. show God's love through us. Lets us be the vessel we were all meant to be. Love one another no matter the fault. Show kindness, respect and caring for our fellow man. Offer blessings freely and without prejudice. God's love wasn't just or Christians. It is for everyone. We should all do our part to share God's love with the world. Show them the Jesus in us.

    I recently witnessed a tragedy. Downtown Tampa had a very large Christian convention. This event was hosted by a Prominate Church Group. It filled at least 4 different hotels in the downtown area. Placing close to 2000 rooms to be occupied by this group. What makes this amazing is the fact that there 0 people saved. {pause}What makes this worse is that Christians are now resented, and it has noting at all to do with being a Christian.
    Their actions spoke loudly, and clearly. Christians weren't to be trusted at any level. Sadly their attitudes towards anyone not part of their group were not worthy to be treated with respect, no love offered or implied. The rare occasion you would here them state "God bless you" but this was said more in a way that just meant goodbye rather than a true blessing. There was no control over their children. Thefts in my hotel alone topped $6,000. This is merely our lost items we supply to the guest's rooms. Coffee makers, Irons, Hiardryers, Remotes, towels, etc. etc.
    There was porn ordered from the tv's in the rooms. Employee's whose very income is dependant upon tips, didn't get any or very little at all. Essentially turning a large amount of staff's wages to less than $5.00 an hour.
    The rooms were trashed. I mean disgustingly trashed. 1 week and guest had black rings around tubs. Of course very few rooms wanted housekeeing services during their stay, so they stayed withing their own filth. Trashed gather in large amounts in corners. Food left on tables, floors, chairs and so on. It was taking our housekeepers 2 hours or more per room to get them clean, whereas the normal time is under 45 minutes. Shower curtains had to be disguarded the amount of grease and grime was to thick to remove.
    What has happened now is, People who had to work for the hotels, convention centers, resturants, etc. now thoroughly resent Christians. What hasn't been seen was Jesus's love, rather, a complete opposite. God's love was hidden from those who need to know its there for them. People have enough of Christians and don't want anything more to do with them. From this point forward, everytime a Christian group is booked into our hotel, The grumbling and distained feelings will return and no one will want to deal with them anymore.
    Now just imagine what would have happened if this group offered pleasent greetings to others. Instead of ordering the Adult movie channel, opening their bibles and sharing the word with their children. Putting the curfew out for their children and not leaving them to roam the hallways of the hotel at all hours. Left items not belonging to them where they were. Offer a word of encouragement to others besides themselves (hotel and convention staff, people on the street, etc.) If this group lived by the example that Jesus showed us. How many people would, or could have truly been saved?
    We need to let God's love shine through in our every moment. Show his love, his compassion. Not just try to save the lost, but show what it means to be saved. Act as if you are blessed, because you are blessed.
    Let people see your Christ shine through you.
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    18 Jul '09 19:321 edit
    Originally posted by KJCavalier
    I am sharing this anyway. Unfortunately it does show a horrible example of modern day Christians in action. This is a sermon as well a a letter to be written to hundreds of churches here in the USA.


    Be Christ like. A Christian should aspire to be nothing less than Christ like. Prayer, our daily walk. Our daily talk. and our very actions. We as christ lessed, because you are blessed.
    Let people see your Christ shine through you.
    Sorry to hear that happened to ya.

    As for this Christian, all I can say is that I was no where near the Tampa area during that time. If you like, I even have witnesses to this fact. 😛

    I offer no arguments to your assessment of the situation
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    19 Jul '09 10:17
    Originally posted by KJCavalier
    I am sharing this anyway. Unfortunately it does show a horrible example of modern day Christians in action. This is a sermon as well a a letter to be written to hundreds of churches here in the USA.


    Be Christ like. A Christian should aspire to be nothing less than Christ like. Prayer, our daily walk. Our daily talk. and our very actions. We as christ ...[text shortened]... lessed, because you are blessed.
    Let people see your Christ shine through you.
    What group was it?
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    19 Jul '09 13:13
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    What group was it?
    Well they certainly can't be from my church. People who come to my church must first prove they have entered into a state of perfection whereby they can no longer do no wrong. It is then, and only then, they are allowed to join so that they are not able to give us all a bad name.
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    19 Jul '09 15:42
    Originally posted by whodey
    Well they certainly can't be from my church. People who come to my church must first prove they have entered into a state of perfection whereby they can no longer do no wrong. It is then, and only then, they are allowed to join so that they are not able to give us all a bad name.
    The next time you think you're perfect try walking on water.
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    19 Jul '09 18:11
    Originally posted by KJCavalier
    I am sharing this anyway. Unfortunately it does show a horrible example of modern day Christians in action. This is a sermon as well a a letter to be written to hundreds of churches here in the USA.


    Be Christ like. A Christian should aspire to be nothing less than Christ like. Prayer, our daily walk. Our daily talk. and our very actions. We as christ ...[text shortened]... lessed, because you are blessed.
    Let people see your Christ shine through you.
    Matthew, chapter 7 verses 21,22,23.

    "Not everyone who say to Me, 'Lord,Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
    MANY will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'

    And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'


    This and other verses spoken by Jesus clearly tells us that there's MANY people running around saying Lord' Lord' all the time, but that they are not saved.

    This does NOT mean all true modern day Christians are like this. I have seen way worse than this by supposed Christians. Does this mean all modern Christians are bad?

    This truly is a sad case of behavior by some supposed Christians. And It's to bad. But your, and your follow workers bitterness towards all Christians over the actions of a few is also wrong.
    I could break down bad behavior by race, sex, disability, etc,etc. And all I would do is have bitterness towards all in the end.
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    19 Jul '09 20:01
    Originally posted by whodey
    Well they certainly can't be from my church. People who come to my church must first prove they have entered into a state of perfection whereby they can no longer do no wrong. It is then, and only then, they are allowed to join so that they are not able to give us all a bad name.
    I hope you're kidding. 🙄
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    20 Jul '09 06:52
    Originally posted by KJCavalier
    I am sharing this anyway. Unfortunately it does show a horrible example of modern day Christians in action. This is a sermon as well a a letter to be written to hundreds of churches here in the USA.


    Be Christ like. A Christian should aspire to be nothing less than Christ like. Prayer, our daily walk. Our daily talk. and our very actions. We as christ ...[text shortened]... lessed, because you are blessed.
    Let people see your Christ shine through you.
    Must have been a Paula White Ministry Convention.
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    20 Jul '09 16:26
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    What group was it?
    Kirksey, my friend. I actually am withholding that piece of infromation due to my respect for the organization. I won't even offer a speculation as to whom the group is. I respect the leadership and teachings. I just feel its time for those who profess christianity as their religion, to show more than tell.

    King David I couldn't have agreed more.
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    20 Jul '09 16:28
    Originally posted by whodey
    Well they certainly can't be from my church. People who come to my church must first prove they have entered into a state of perfection whereby they can no longer do no wrong. It is then, and only then, they are allowed to join so that they are not able to give us all a bad name.
    If this is your church, please keep it. I'd rather walk with the meek and humble at heart.
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    20 Jul '09 16:37
    Originally posted by KJCavalier
    Kirksey, my friend. I actually am withholding that piece of infromation due to my respect for the organization. I won't even offer a speculation as to whom the group is. I respect the leadership and teachings. I just feel its time for those who profess christianity as their religion, to show more than tell.

    King David I couldn't have agreed more.
    Why what do they have to hide?
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    20 Jul '09 18:29
    Originally posted by daniel58
    Why what do they have to hide?
    I think the better question is why do you need to know? It isn't pertinent for this situation, as this effects the way all christian are perceived. Trust me when I tell you the situation has been addressed to the leader of the church group in hopes that the message will be given to their group and something good will become of this.
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    20 Jul '09 18:36
    Originally posted by KJCavalier
    I think the better question is why do you need to know? It isn't pertinent for this situation, as this effects the way all christian are perceived. Trust me when I tell you the situation has been addressed to the leader of the church group in hopes that the message will be given to their group and something good will become of this.
    But you are hiding it from everyone.
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    20 Jul '09 18:471 edit
    Originally posted by KingDavid403
    Matthew, chapter 7 verses 21,22,23.

    [b]"Not everyone who say to Me, 'Lord,Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
    MANY will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'

    And then I will declare to th x, disability, etc,etc. And all I would do is have bitterness towards all in the end.
    I want to add further to your comment. We have had many many groups. I personally have dealt with rock concerts, wrestling matches, other religous groups, junior league sports, college,. semi-pro amd pro leagues, Japanese anime enthusiest, gay pride week, etc. etc. adnauseum. I have seen the best and worst in every group. My business is dealing directly with the public and their hospitable needs. we will deal with nearly every walk in life. I personally have worked in nearly every level of the hotel and motel industry. The only level I haven't been in is at the 5 star luxury.

    Trust me when I say the disdain now is towards christians. I myself being Christian as well feel the pain and hurt this causes at several different levels. I hope and pray that this group can change it's ways. I pray everynight as well as address my own staff on what it really means to be a christian. I avoid this forum most of the time because I am not versed enough to put up great debates as to why christianity is truly the only way. I leave that to you, and others.

    The point that seemed to be missed here was people who don't know, now won't know because they are already sick of christians. There is no mistaken that this is had nothing to do with race, sex, etc.
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    20 Jul '09 19:13
    Originally posted by KJCavalier
    Kirksey, my friend. I actually am withholding that piece of infromation due to my respect for the organization. I won't even offer a speculation as to whom the group is. I respect the leadership and teachings. I just feel its time for those who profess christianity as their religion, to show more than tell.

    King David I couldn't have agreed more.
    I thought the truth set people free.
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