Ice Cores and the Age of the Earth

Originally posted by Proper Knob
No one has told me evolution is a fact, i've read numerous books on the subject and come to my own conclusions after reading the evidence. Something you haven't.

Now, how is that 'dishonest' or 'lies'?

You are in a bad way if you have to be convinced of your own dishonesty.
You don't know what you say is the truth or a lie. Satan has really deceived
you good. Poor thing. You need Christ's salvation bad. Start praying.

P.S. My wife informs me we are out of milk and other items, so I'm off to
the grocery store for awhile. This will give you time to conjure up those
alternatives to creation beside evolution.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You are in a bad way if you have to be convinced of your own dishonesty.
You don't know what you say is the truth or a lie. Satan has really deceived
you good. Poor thing. You need Christ's salvation bad. Start praying.

P.S. My wife informs me we are out of milk and other items, so I'm off to
the grocery store for awhile. This will give you time to conjure up those
alternatives to creation beside evolution.

You haven't answered my question about the example you gave, your god rested on the 7th day to show an example to people. Where is that in the bible.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You are in a bad way if you have to be convinced of your own dishonesty.
You don't know what you say is the truth or a lie. Satan has really deceived
you good. Poor thing. You need Christ's salvation bad. Start praying.

P.S. My wife informs me we are out of milk and other items, so I'm off to
the grocery store for awhile. This will give you time to conjure up those
alternatives to creation beside evolution.

So you can't show how any of what i said is dishonest or lies?! What a surprise.

Try again Ron.

Originally posted by RJHinds
There is not enough available evidence for evolution to be right, so the only
other choice is creation. Ha ha.

seeing that this comment is being made by someone who is completely ignorant about evolution, it carries no practical weight.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
So you can't show how any of what i said is dishonest or lies?! What a surprise.

Try again Ron.

Sorry, I can't eeem to tell you and googlefudge apart. You both say about
the same thing, like parrots.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Science can not possibly know this for they have no eyewitness report
like the Holy Bible. They only have a bunch of guess work. What are the
other alternatives that you have for creation? Maybe one of them will make
more sense to me than evolution.

First Evolution ONLY covers the diversity and development of life.
As you well know.

It has nothing to say about the formation of the planet stars or rest of the universe.

Second:
I didn't say that there were alternative theories (or hypothesises to the diversity of life on
earth) I said that Evolution and Creation were not exclusive and exhaustive options.

When I say you are either a theist or an atheist it's because one label means NOT the other label.
There is no other option than being one or the other.

However evolution and creation are not the negation of each other, they are not opposites.
One being proved wrong does not prove the other.

Now I don't have any alternative explanations to evolution (there were other ideas posited in the past
but those have been disproven) because EVOLUTION WORKS. there is no need for an alternative or
space for one to exist because we don't have anything we currently know about the diversity of life
that contradicts evolution thus requiring an alternative.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
seeing that this comment is being made by someone who is completely ignorant about evolution, it carries no practical weight.

I bet you can't stand microbiologist Michael Behe since he does knows a lot
about biology and evolution, but believes in intelligent design.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behe

Originally posted by RJHinds
You need to read Dasa's post on honesty again. You still don't get it.

Dasa is an evil little bigot with the logical capacity of an amoeba.
Don't expect me to take any notice of anything he posts, and don't use him as an example
for any point you want me to actually pay attention to.

I understand what honesty actually is, unlike you or dasa. You are the one who doesn't get it.

Originally posted by sonhouse
You haven't answered my question about the example you gave, your god rested on the 7th day to show an example to people. Where is that in the bible.

I must have answered that on another thread. One place was John chapter 5.

P.S. Mark 2:27-28 is another place.

And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the
Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”

Originally posted by RJHinds
I bet you can't stand microbiologist Michael Behe since he does knows a lot
about biology and evolution, but believes in intelligent design.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behe

He knows sweet FA about evolution. And is an idiot.

He has been totally discredited and debunked, refuted and shredded by the scientific community.

And that is all irrelevant because science is democratic.

The facts either support your position or they don't.

You have evidence or nothing.

He has nothing.

He is wrong. period.

Bringing him up is a simple and pathetic argument from authority fallacy.

Present evidence (in a peer reviewed journal) or shut up.

Originally posted by googlefudge
He knows sweet FA about evolution. And is an idiot.

He has been totally discredited and debunked, refuted and shredded by the scientific community.

And that is all irrelevant because science is democratic.

The facts either support your position or they don't.

You have evidence or nothing.

He has nothing.

He is wrong. period.

Bringing ...[text shortened]... c argument from authority fallacy.

Present evidence (in a peer reviewed journal) or shut up.

He is not an idiot. Didn't you read the Wikipedia article?

Originally posted by RJHinds
He is not an idiot. Didn't you read the Wikipedia article?

Yes, ages ago when I first came across this cretin.
I have also seen video of his idiotic testimony in the Dover trial.

Where his side lost, spectacularly.

So yes, He is a complete idiot.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Yes, ages ago when I first came across this cretin.
I have also seen video of his idiotic testimony in the Dover trial.

Where his side lost, spectacularly.

So yes, He is a complete idiot.

This what Professor Behe said, "In fact, my argument for intelligent design is open to direct experimental rebuttal. Here is a thought experiment that makes the point clear. In Darwin’s Black Box (Behe 1996) I claimed that the bacterial flagellum was irreducibly complex and so required deliberate intelligent design. The flip side of this claim is that the flagellum can’t be produced by natural selection acting on random mutation, or any other unintelligent process. To falsify such a claim, a scientist could go into the laboratory, place a bacterial species lacking a flagellum under some selective pressure (for mobility, say), grow it for ten thousand generations, and see if a flagellum--or any equally complex system--was produced. If that happened, my claims would be neatly disproven."

No one has even dared to try to do this. All they do is bad mouth him, like you.

Originally posted by RJHinds
This what Professor Behe said, "In fact, my argument for intelligent design is open to direct experimental rebuttal. Here is a thought experiment that makes the point clear. In Darwin’s Black Box (Behe 1996) I claimed that the bacterial flagellum was irreducibly complex and so required deliberate intelligent design. The flip side of this claim is that the fl ...[text shortened]... sproven."

No one has even dared to try to do this. All they do is bad mouth him, like you.

http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/design1/article.html

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And on the topic of knocking down the idiotic belief that humans are so special that theists cling to...
Don't worry RJHinds you can't watch this one the BBC wont allow people outside the UK to watch it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01by613/hd/Super_Smart_Animals_Episode_1/

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and finally...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nSqJ-7tg0Eo

Originally posted by RJHinds
This what Professor Behe said, "In fact, my argument for intelligent design is open to direct experimental rebuttal. Here is a thought experiment that makes the point clear. In Darwin’s Black Box (Behe 1996) I claimed that the bacterial flagellum was irreducibly complex and so required deliberate intelligent design. The flip side of this claim is that the fl ...[text shortened]... sproven."

No one has even dared to try to do this. All they do is bad mouth him, like you.

Your Mr Behe and Dasa does not agree with eachother. One must lie. I suppose Behe is, because you think Dasa canot be wrong.