Idea of Heaven

Originally posted by Omnislash
That's the point precisely. I don't get this guys perception of heaven (though obviously he is trying to be funny). I don't get checkbaiters perception of heaven. I don't get a lot of peoples perception of heaven. Likewise, I am sure they don't get my perception of heaven. We all have our own notions of what heaven is like (assuming we believe in such a place) our would be like (for those of us who don't).

Heaven is not a place where people float on clouds and play harps, etc. There is much in the Old Testament of farming, plenty of good food, freedom from pain, sickness, evil of any kind. We will work, but it will be enjoyable, we will have great joy. The lion will lay with the lamb, and will eat grass or some kind of vegetation. I will try and find related scripture if you would like. Isreal was excited about the coming Kingdom and thought Christ would bring it right then and there. They failed to see this period of "Grace" where the Gentiles would be brought in. The bible speaks of new bodies, incorruptible, etc.

well heaven is taught, at least in my religion, to be a state you reach where you are apart of God and not your own seperate entitiy, now maybe its just because I cant imagine it, but that just doesnt sound right to me, you would think it would be like earth, but paradise, no plauge, violence, sin, ext...

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Heaven is not a place where people float on clouds and play harps, etc. There is much in the Old Testament of farming, plenty of good food, freedom from pain, sickness, evil of any kind. We will work, but it will be enjoyable, we will have great joy. The lion will lay with the lamb, and will eat grass or some kind of vegetation. I will try and find relat ...[text shortened]... ce" where the Gentiles would be brought in. The bible speaks of new bodies, incorruptible, etc.

Could you cite some verses that say Heaven will be earth? I would appreciate it.

Originally posted by DarkWatcher
well heaven is taught, at least in my religion, to be a state you reach where you are apart of God and not your own seperate entitiy, now maybe its just because I cant imagine it, but that just doesnt sound right to me, you would think it would be like earth, but paradise, no plauge, violence, sin, ext...

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! Or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Col 1:27 To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

Originally posted by The Chess Express
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! Or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Col 1:27 To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

luke 17:21 said it best
it is within you
at death you become pure essence
pure energy .it weighs about 1 oz or so
they discovered this weighing people while they died
this energy like electricity returns to its source
and which polarity you are determines the source
but it is all inside your essence to begin with
or thats my theory .....today

Originally posted by aspviper666
luke 17:21 said it best
it is within you
at death you become pure essence
pure energy .it weighs about 1 oz or so
they discovered this weighing people while they died
this energy like electricity returns to its source
and which polarity you are determines the source
but it is all inside your essence to begin with
or thats my theory .....today

That’s cool. So the soul weighs an once. Any references?

Originally posted by Omnislash
That's the point precisely. I don't get this guys perception of heaven (though obviously he is trying to be funny). I don't get checkbaiters perception of heaven. I don't get a lot of peoples perception of heaven. Likewise, I am sure they don't get my perception of heaven. We all have our own notions of what heaven is like (assuming we believe in such a place) our would be like (for those of us who don't).

"Heaven vast
Blue shimmering light
Seagulls, wind, hot ray of sun
Happy, happy, exploding now
Life was real, life was fun

Headache dissolve; Surpassing
all my treasures of within
Peace, tranquility, everlasting
happy, happy now

Oh, how I long for oblivion
Sent of due drops flowery hume
To be forever forgotten in
this world of pain and loom

To be dissolved and reborn
A bird or mindless rock or stone
For my limbs are aching sore
My soul barely lifted by my bone

Of all the things that I have done
I regret but one thing; one thing alone
That I didn't crack your christian skull
into oblivion before they sealed my tomb

For I'd much rather wanted,
to be part of heavinly sent
To earth, to wind, to water,
To nature's own perverted bent."

Stocken