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    04 Oct '11 12:17
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I think some are trying to change the definiton of evolution because
    they are beginning to realize it doen't work.
    Then you think wrong.
    Creationists have been trying to change the meaning because they know its true.
    And don't like it.
    This is called lying.
    They do it a lot.
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    04 Oct '11 12:24
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Well this is one thing we agree on. I think he's calling the kettle black.... How anyone could fall for the THEORY of evolution I'll never understand.
    Actually you do understand it. It is easy to tell who is telling the truth and who is the idiot. The one who lies to support his claims is the idiot, because he doesn't even believe his own mouth.
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    04 Oct '11 12:29
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Then you think wrong.
    Creationists have been trying to change the meaning because they know its true.
    And don't like it.
    This is called lying.
    They do it a lot.
    The narrator of the second video is mixing fact with fiction to support
    the theory of evolution so he can call it a fact, when in fact, evolution
    is still just a theory. That's a fact Jack.
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    04 Oct '11 12:33
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Well this is one thing we agree on. I think he's calling the kettle black.... How anyone could fall for the THEORY of evolution I'll never understand.
    Well it seems google fudge and twhitehead have fallen for it.
    Perhaps they just need a little more evolving or maybe a
    smart pill.
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    04 Oct '11 13:01
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The narrator of the second video is mixing fact with fiction to support
    the theory of evolution so he can call it a fact, when in fact, evolution
    is still just a theory. That's a fact Jack.
    You failed to comprehend the point.

    And no, what he was saying is true.

    All biology, medicine, palaeontology, supports and relies on evolution.

    Including the science behind cancer treatment.

    If evolution was wrong then everything built on it would not work.

    It does.

    The fact you have been indoctrinated to believe otherwise makes you one of the people
    in the video spouting nonsense and lies and who get ridiculed for it.

    You are wrong, and your views are ridiculous.

    They are also deeply damaging.

    Science doesn't know everything.... Religion knows nothing.
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    04 Oct '11 14:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Well it seems google fudge and twhitehead have fallen for it.
    Perhaps they just need a little more evolving or maybe a
    smart pill.
    Lol....
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    04 Oct '11 14:46
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Lol....
    Yes it's very witty, all arguments are obviously won by the person with the best most cutting insults...

    Oh no wait... that's not true is it.

    If you can't actually argue the point and thus have to resort to trying to undermine the opponent rather
    than the arguments then you have lost.

    Man up and admit it.
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    04 Oct '11 16:41
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I think some are trying to change the definiton of evolution because
    they are beginning to realize it doen't work.
    I think some are trying to change the definiton of evolution because
    they are beginning to realize it doen't work.


    I don't know what the biological science of the rest of the 21rst century will be. But I bet it will be called "Evolution".
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    04 Oct '11 17:14
    Originally posted by jaywill
    I think some are trying to change the definiton of evolution because
    they are beginning to realize it doen't work.


    I don't know what the biological science of the rest of the 21rst century will be. But I bet it will be called [b] "Evolution".
    [/b]
    Evolution is not going to be the focus of the biological sciences in the 21st century. We are all carrying around genetic defects. The hot area of biological science in the 21 century will be personalized medicine. Personalized medicine uses a person's own genomic information to develop diagnostics, personalized preventive and curative treatments for diseases that are traceable to genetic defects. Dr. Francis Collins, head of the NIH, just appeared on KQED's Forum With Michale Krasny, and he gives a very clear description of this area of research.

    The link to spirituality is his religious faith.

    Audio will be available soon, at

    http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201110040900

    Quote: National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins joins us to discuss the state of medical research funding, the promise of personalized medicine and the role of government in promoting scientific innovation. We'll also discuss how Collins, an evangelical Christian, views the relationship between science and religious faith.
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    04 Oct '11 18:031 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Yes it's very witty, all arguments are obviously won by the person with the best most cutting insults...

    Oh no wait... that's not true is it.

    If you can't actually argue the point and thus have to resort to trying to undermine the opponent rather
    than the arguments then you have lost.

    Man up and admit it.
    Sorry but I've lost nothing. Keep on with the theory all you guys want but the proof will never happen no matter how you try.
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    04 Oct '11 18:14
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Sorry but I've lost nothing. Keep on with the theory all you guys want but the proof will never happen no matter how you try.
    It's already happened.

    And you've lost the argument (along with RJHinds), because you have stopped trying to
    make actual points and have resorted instead to simply trying to undermine the people
    (not the arguments) against you, and by just claiming yourself to be right because you
    say so.

    In light of the then unanswered and well backed up points against you, you lose the
    argument by default.

    If you don't actually want to concede, try making an actual argument that you are right.

    Simply claiming yourself to be right in the face of all evidence is no argument whatsoever,
    and is both morally and intellectually bankrupt.
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    04 Oct '11 18:20
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    It's already happened.

    And you've lost the argument (along with RJHinds), because you have stopped trying to
    make actual points and have resorted instead to simply trying to undermine the people
    (not the arguments) against you, and by just claiming yourself to be right because you
    say so.

    In light of the then unanswered and well backed up poi ...[text shortened]... of all evidence is no argument whatsoever,
    and is both morally and intellectually bankrupt.
    No it hasn't and you know it hasn't. I hear this evrey six months and when shown this new so called proof, it's not even close. But yall keep on trying. 🙂
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    04 Oct '11 18:39
    Originally posted by galveston75
    No it hasn't and you know it hasn't. I hear this evrey six months and when shown this new so called proof, it's not even close. But yall keep on trying. 🙂
    Ok, what would class as proof (for you) that evolution is true?

    What would convince you that evolution is real?
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    04 Oct '11 22:12
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Ok, what would class as proof (for you) that evolution is true?

    What would convince you that evolution is real?
    What is this big proof that convinces you? It may convince me too, even
    though i doubt it. If it doesn't, then, I will tell you what is wrong with it.
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    04 Oct '11 22:141 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    What is this big proof that convinces you? It may convince me too, even
    though i doubt it. If it doesn't, then, I will tell you what is wrong with it.
    What you did there... see that... it is called sidestepping. I understand... being uneducated on the subject you don't want to define a proof that would convince you, not knowing if such a proof exists.
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