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    @caissad4 said
    And where did you answer the OP ?
    Please consult wikipedia and proceed .
    So in other words, you have no idea what you are talking about.

    I understand this thread was designed to celebrate your Lefty friend Omar, but it might help to have a basic understanding of Islam before doing so.
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    @whodey said
    So in other words, you have no idea what you are talking about.

    I understand this thread was designed to celebrate your Lefty friend Omar, but it might help to have a basic understanding of Islam before doing so.
    Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not a fan of Omar .
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    @caissad4 said
    Ilhan Omar is a member of the US Congress and a Muslim She is viewed as a far left politician .
    Female Genital Mutilation (female circumcision ) is required in Islam .
    She publicly called FGM , evil , vile and abhorrent . I agree with her view .
    Does this make her an Islamaphobe ?
    YES! TOTAL Islamophobe.

    After all, one cannot simply disagree with a single tenet of a faith.
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    I agreed with a Moslem and that is bad ?
    Should I have disagreed with her ?
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    @bigdoggproblem said
    YES! TOTAL Islamophobe.

    After all, one cannot simply disagree with a single tenet of a faith.
    That must make me an omniphobe. I disagree with a little bit of everything.
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    The hadith in question has Muhammad explaining how to carry out FGM, which kind of negates its absence from the Quran (bearing in mind the gravitas his words have in Islam).

    'Muhammed replied: “Yes, it is allowed. Come closer so I can teach you: if you cut, do not overdo it, because it brings more radiance to the face, and it is more pleasant for the husband.”
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    @caissad4 said
    Should I have disagreed with her ?
    Absolutely not.

    The practice of FGM is barbaric and misogynistic in the extreme.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    The hadith in question has Muhammad explaining how to carry out FGM, which kind of negates its absence from the Quran (bearing in mind the gravitas his words have in Islam).

    'Muhammed replied: “Yes, it is allowed. Come closer so I can teach you: if you cut, do not overdo it, because it brings more radiance to the face, and it is more pleasant for the husband.”
    Sounds somewhat like Muhammad could have been referring to male circumcision.
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    @secondson said
    Absolutely not.

    The practice of FGM is barbaric and misogynistic in the extreme.
    I was being facetious . I agree with you that it is barbaric and misogynistic .
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    @caissad4 said
    I was being facetious . I agree with you that it is barbaric and misogynistic .
    I know. I am agreeing with you.
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    @secondson said
    Sounds somewhat like Muhammad could have been referring to male circumcision.
    No sir, it is a recorded discussion between Muhammed and a woman (Um Habiba) who was known for being a practitioner of FGM. - Muhammad asks her if she still practiced FGM, to which she replies "yes", adding: “unless it is forbidden and you order me to stop doing it.”

    He doesn't
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    No sir, it is a recorded discussion between Muhammed and a woman (Um Habiba) who was known for being a practitioner of FGM. - Muhammad asks her if she still practiced FGM, to which she replies "yes", adding: “unless it is forbidden and you order me to stop doing it.”

    He doesn't
    And then Muhammad proceeded to show the woman how to mutilate little girl's genitalia.

    Brilliant religion.
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    @secondson said
    And then Muhammad proceeded to show the woman how to mutilate little girl's genitalia.

    Brilliant religion.
    Abhorrent indeed. Of course, Genesis 12 from the bible is similarly abhorrent:

    'Generation after generation, every male must be circumcised when he is eight days old, including those born in your household and those purchased from a foreigner—even those who are not your offspring.'

    Or is it only the mutilation of female genitalia that bothers you?
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