In response to "an atheist's pointless existence"...

Originally posted by amannion
Um, hello ... atheist here.
Why would I NOT ignore something I don't believe exists?
You may as well ask me why I ignore Harry Potter's love?

It is also difficult for me to understand how anyone with common sense
could be an atheist with all the proof available. Why can't you see it?

Originally posted by RJHinds
It is also difficult for me to understand how anyone with common sense
could be an atheist with all the proof available. Why can't you see it?

Give me one proof.

One proof that is incontravertible, reproducible, and repeatable.
One proof that is not based on a circular argument that boils down to god exists because god exists.
One proof that isn't based on human writings from the middle east that are 2000 years old.

Do that, and I'm yours.

Originally posted by amannion
Give me one proof.

One proof that is incontravertible, reproducible, and repeatable.
One proof that is not based on a circular argument that boils down to god exists because god exists.
One proof that isn't based on human writings from the middle east that are 2000 years old.

Do that, and I'm yours.

I would say life itself. The design of the seed to reproduce itself. All
life is constantly reproducing itself so we can see what God has created.
So man is without excuse for not believing in a designer and creator.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I would say life itself. The design of the seed to reproduce itself. All
life is constantly reproducing itself so we can see what God has created.
So man is without excuse for not believing in a designer and creator.

That's not a proof.
It's exactly what I was referring to as circular arguments.
You may as well say to me that a can of coke proves god's existence, or a piece of dirt on my shoe proves god's existence.
Life demonstrating god's existence is simply a bad cliche - like something out of a hallmark card.
I'll give you another chance.
Give me one proof.

Originally posted by amannion
That's not a proof.
It's exactly what I was referring to as circular arguments.
You may as well say to me that a can of coke proves god's existence, or a piece of dirt on my shoe proves god's existence.
Life demonstrating god's existence is simply a bad cliche - like something out of a hallmark card.
I'll give you another chance.
Give me one proof.

I gave you proof that satisfies everything that you asked for. Now you
don't want to believe so you are like a child, who wants to change the
rules. Life is something that man can not explain or reproduce, yet it
exists with the ability to reproduce itself with a computer-like program
so advanced that the best programmers in the world can not come near
to matching it. You can't honestly say it doesn't satisfy the science of
being able to be reproduced and be repeatable. I did not say anything
about God exists because God exists. You know life exists just like
we know electricty exists. I also did not mention any old books of any
kind. So what is the problem? Did you lie to me? You don't seem to
want to play fair. I did not mention anything about something man could
make like a coke can or anything about the creation of the heavens or the
earth or that dirt on your shoes. You don't want circular arguments yet
you are quick to give a strawman argument. Suck it up and admit you are
a liar and never intended to believe in the beginning.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I gave you proof that satisfies everything that you asked for. Now you
don't want to believe so you are like a child, who wants to change the
rules. Life is something that man can not explain or reproduce, yet it
exists with the ability to reproduce itself with a computer-like program
so advanced that the best programmers in the world can not come near ...[text shortened]... ment. Suck it up and admit you are
a liar and never intended to believe in the beginning.

I'll suck it up when you stop using the crap spouted by your preacher(s), or spoon fed to you by your parents, to demonstrate the existence of supernatural entities.

Life cannot be explained? Are you a complete moron? Sorry, of course you are. You live in a society that laughingly tolerates creationism and intelligent design as alternative 'scientific' explanations for life.

The tree that's outside my office as I sit here typing to a person who thinks the shroud of Turin and Noah's Ark actually existed demonstrates nothing to me about the existence of a supernatural being. It demonstrates only that there was once a seed, which has germinated and grown.
Okay, you argue, what about the seed? Where did that come from? By which of course, you mean to suggest that eventually we must come to a cause for this life that is unexplained and therefore, in steps god.
I grant you that the original beginnings of life are unexplained.
Does that therefore prove the existence of god?
Of course not. It simply tells us we don't know something.
Are you telling me that your proof of god boils down to us not knowing something?
I hope not, because it isn't proof.

Try again.
I'm waiting ...

Originally posted by amannion
I'll suck it up when you stop using the crap spouted by your preacher(s), or spoon fed to you by your parents, to demonstrate the existence of supernatural entities.

Life cannot be explained? Are you a complete moron? Sorry, of course you are. You live in a society that laughingly tolerates creationism and intelligent design as alternative 'scientific' e ...[text shortened]... t knowing something?
I hope not, because it isn't proof.

Try again.
I'm waiting ...

I am not trying again. Because I know you are a Liar.
I will not associate with liars. You can remain an
unbeliever and hate God if you wish. I will only say
may God help you to see the truth before it is too late.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not trying again. Because I know you are a Liar.
I will not associate with liars. You can remain an
unbeliever and hate God if you wish. I will only say
may God help you to see the truth before it is too late.

Yeah, right. The classic out clause. You have no proof so you resort to whining your way out of a debate.
By the way, why would I hate something that doesn't exist?

Originally posted by amannion
Yeah, right. The classic out clause. You have no proof so you resort to whining your way out of a debate.
By the way, why would I hate something that doesn't exist?

I've also wondered why atheist hate a God they say does not exist. But
for some reason, when things don't go their way, they seem to curse
God for it.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I've also wondered why atheist hate a God they say does not exist. But
for some reason, when things don't go their way, they seem to curse
God for it.

I use Christian curses all the time .. as in bloody hell!, or jesus!, or god damn! ... but that's just the nature of living in a largely Christian society. The curses don't have any meaning, they're used to emphasise - like 'f__k' or 'sh_t' are used.
But hate gods?
That makes no sense.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not trying again. Because I know you are a Liar.
I will not associate with liars.

You must be really lonely. What if everyone else had your attitude and refused to associate with you?

Originally posted by twhitehead
You must be really lonely. What if everyone else had your attitude and refused to associate with you?

what? If?

Originally posted by twhitehead
You must be really lonely. What if everyone else had your attitude and refused to associate with you?

i get the impression that RJHinds is a sarcastic unbeliever playing the believer for jollies.

Originally posted by twhitehead
You must be really lonely. What if everyone else had your attitude and refused to associate with you?

That would be their loss.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I would say life itself. The design of the seed to reproduce itself. All
life is constantly reproducing itself so we can see what God has created.
So man is without excuse for not believing in a designer and creator.

how does the existence and reproduction of life prove the existence of a creator?