Originally posted by Dasa
Indians do not represent the Vedas.

Ask a thousand Indians something about religion or the Vedas and you will get a thousand interpretations.

So what makes you think your interpretation is the correct one?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
I have a fair idea of what a demi-god is.

Fact is Hinduism is not so cut and dry as you make out and your post insults me , albeit mildly, as I identify with being a hindu.
I find your thrust very elitist and I am more about the common people in the street.

It's like you cut of your nose despite your face.

You cannot just reject my comments and cut and run.

You must at least then put forward your understanding of the true nature of Hinduism - or else your words are baseless.

Originally posted by Dasa
You cannot just reject my comments and cut and run.

You must at least then put forward your understanding of the true nature of Hinduism - or else your words are baseless.

Why not? Is it not what you always do. If his understanding does not agree with you, you will just call him dishonest.

Originally posted by Vartiovuori
So what makes you think your interpretation is the correct one?

The Vedas are the authority and I accept that authority.

But more importantly the translation of the Vedas must come through a perfect and bonafide spiritual master......(see OP on Gurus posted up recently)

I have had the blessings of the association of such a master.

The bonafide spiritual master must conform to all the qualities of the bonafide spiritual master - or else he is not qualified to teach.

Only 1 out of 5000 spiritual masters is qualified in this age of Kali

This age of Kali is the age of cheating and deceiving.

There is no person on the face of the earth that is honest in these times accept for the self realized and enlightened Vaisnavas - and even then they must apply themselves to the true spiritual living to achieve this.

Originally posted by RJHinds
A person is dishonest if they say or do things that they do not believe. One
can believe things that are not true, like you do, and be very honest and still
be wrong. But to believe that your soul will be repeatedly reborn into other
bodies, animal or human, is stupid beyond belief.

The soul was born into your body..................or how did you get here.

Originally posted by Dasa
..The bonafide spiritual master must conform to all the qualities of the bonafide spiritual master ....

Such as eating cow dung 😀

Originally posted by sonhouse
But of course you are one of the guru's who can get it all right.....

I get it right because I have accepted the authority.

You also would get it right if you accepted the spiritual authority.

But first you must embrace pure honesty and humility and at least surrender to the idea of God.

If you cannot even surrender to the idea of God - you will remain fixed where you find yourself and not raise your consciousness to the transcendental platform - as opposed to the mundane platform.

Too many persons are wanting to understand the transcendental knowledge about God and true religion with the wrong consciousness - and when they find they cannot do it - they reject the whole idea of God altogether.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Such as eating cow dung 😀

You should not pollute this spirituality forum with your foolish comments.

Originally posted by Dasa
The Vedas are the authority.

What authority do you mean, and on what basis does this authority stand?

Originally posted by Dasa
The bonafide spiritual master must conform to all the qualities of the bonafide spiritual master - or else he is not qualified to teach.

So what makes you think your interpretation of "bona fide qualities" is the correct one?

Originally posted by Dasa
You should not pollute this spirituality forum with your foolish comments.

Is that a YES ?

Originally posted by Dasa
The Vedas are the authority and I accept that authority.

But more importantly the translation of the Vedas must come through a perfect and bonafide spiritual master......(see OP on Gurus posted up recently)

I have had the blessings of the association of such a master.

The bonafide spiritual master must conform to all the qualities of the bonafide spir ...[text shortened]... isnavas - and even then they must apply themselves to the true spiritual living to achieve this.

So you have yet another extremely elitist religion where now only one in a million can be 'enlightened'. Great religion you have there. Must be the most restricted religion on Earth. I think I'll pass.

Originally posted by Dasa
You cannot just reject my comments and cut and run.

You must at least then put forward your understanding of the true nature of Hinduism - or else your words are baseless.

I am not cutting and running-if anything I talk too much

My idea of hinduism is this: you make the world according to your thoughts.
The inner, sublime understanding of your own damma/dharma is all that you need to follow to find the true path for yourself. If that leads you to chanting "hare krsna" then so be it. But not everyone is going to do that.

Is that enough or do you want me to give you more?

Originally posted by Dasa
The Vedas are the authority and I accept that authority.

But more importantly the translation of the Vedas must come through a perfect and bonafide spiritual master......(see OP on Gurus posted up recently)

I have had the blessings of the association of such a master.

The bonafide spiritual master must conform to all the qualities of the bonafide spir ...[text shortened]... isnavas - and even then they must apply themselves to the true spiritual living to achieve this.

I accept the authority of the God of the Holy Bible. To me your Vedas
are useless and I do not even want to read them. They are probably
Satan inspired anyway.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I accept the authority of the God of the Holy Bible. To me your Vedas
are useless and I do not even want to read them. They are probably
Satan inspired anyway.

There is only one authority- and that is you.

And you are no different from "God"