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Originally posted by @rajk999Those who are trying to earn their salvation do good works from selfish motives.
Workers are not good. They are trying to earn their salvation... ask any Christian.
Those who know they are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and belief in His Resurrection do good works out of gratitude and love for Him.
Big difference.
Originally posted by @romans1009This, by you, doesn't sound like a Spirituality Forum conversation-riff that relates to Labour Day. Whether you agree with Rajk999's wry and mischievous effort or not, it was at least on-topic. Go on, have a go.
Those who are trying to earn their salvation do good works from selfish motives.
Those who know they are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and belief in His Resurrection do good works out of gratitude and love for Him.
Big difference.
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Originally posted by @fmfOk, how’s this?
This, by you, doesn't sound like a Spirituality Forum conversation-riff that relates to Labour Day. Whether you agree with Rajk999's wry and mischievous effort or not, it was at least on-topic. Go on, have a go.
“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”
(Mark 8:36)
“Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”
(Isaiah 55:2-3)
“Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”
(Matthew 6:19-21)
Originally posted by @romans1009Can you turn any of these copy pastes into a conversation-riff?
Ok, how’s this?
“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”
(Mark 8:36)
“Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
Incline your ear ...[text shortened]... h nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”
(Matthew 6:19-21)
Originally posted by @romans1009Copy pasted texts were not what I had in mind for this thread. They don't count as "conversation" in my book. But never mind, thanks for contributing.
Don’t they all speak of the idea of laboring for God and to know God and not for material possessions? In other words, placing our focus on eternity and not our time on earth?
Originally posted by @romans1009Start a conversation with some kind of "riff" or question or claim or anecdote, and not merely a copy paste, if you want do it the way I'd like; if not, suit yourself. Thanks anyway.
It’s the idea behind the texts that is important. Can’t believe you don’t realize that.
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Originally posted by @romans1009I think FMF was hoping for you to throw the cat among the pigeons with something like "He that doesn't work shouldn't eat". Good thing you didn't fall for it.
It’s the idea behind the texts that is important. Can’t believe you don’t realize that.
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Originally posted by @fmfSo appparently you do think you should have control over how somebody posts in a thread you start. Bizarre.
Start a conversation with some kind of "riff" or question or claim or anecdote, and not merely a copy paste, if you want do it the way I'd like; if not, suit yourself. Thanks anyway.
01 May 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThat'd have been a good one. A conversation about the spiritual argument for a safety net or, more broadly, socialism would be a good riff for Labour Day.
I think FMF was hoping for you to throw the cat among the pigeons with something like "He that doesn't work shouldn't eat". Good thing you didn't fall for it.
01 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009"Control"?
So appparently you do think you should have control over how somebody posts in a thread you start. Bizarre.