@kellyjay saidWhy are you attempting to characterize our conversation in such a dishonest way?
Your reality versus God, you are always going off saying no one can know the Lord,
so that is your reality, the one between YOUR ears. The universe doesn't reside due
to your permission, and it is what it is with or without your consent or acceptance.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidBelieving in "a Creator" doesn't only speak to the Christian or Jewish God.
Of course, doesn't specifically evidence the Christian God. I'm sure Hindus look up to the same heavens and see it as evidence of Brahma.
@suzianne saidAgreed, but Christians often point to creation as evidence for the existence of their particular God, when it actuality it could evidence another God entirely.
Believing in "a Creator" doesn't only speak to the Christian or Jewish God.
@suzianne saidIt's interesting that you didn't say 'Believing in "a Creator" doesn't only speak to the Christian or Muslim God' and chose 'Jewish God' instead.
Believing in "a Creator" doesn't only speak to the Christian or Jewish God.
It doesn't matter much in this context but it's something a lot of Christians seem to do rather automatically... i.e. lumping the Christian God and Jewish God together, when really the Christian God and the Muslim God have something much more important in common, and the Jewish God is the Abrahamic outlier, so to speak.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI concede the point.
Agreed, but Christians often point to creation as evidence for the existence of their particular God, when it actuality it could evidence another God entirely.
@fmf saidWhy would I pretend to know about the God of the Muslims, when I know far more about the Jewish God?
It's interesting that you didn't say 'Believing in "a Creator" doesn't only speak to the Christian or Muslim God' and chose 'Jewish God' instead.
It doesn't matter much in this context but it's something a lot of Christians seem to do rather automatically... i.e. lumping the Christian God and Jewish God together, when really the Christian God and the Muslim God have something much more important in common, and the Jewish God is the Abrahamic outlier, so to speak.
Neither the God of the Christians, nor the God of the Jews, has left his people adrift, refusing to communicate with them directly, as Muslims claim their God has done. I know the Old Testament's claim on Creation. I don't know the Koran's claim on Creation.
I'd rather speak with authority on things I know than speak with uncertainty on things I don't.
You attack me either way, so perhaps that is your failing, not mine.
@suzianne saidWhat I posted was not an "attack", Suzianne. Both the Christians and the Muslims believe that Jesus was sent by God and that He will return at the "end times" to vanquish "Satan". Followers of the Jewish God believe Jesus was a fake and an imposter.
You attack me either way, so perhaps that is your failing, not mine.
@suzianne saidThe creation story of all three Abrahamic religions is more or less identical. You know this because you and I had a conversation about this very thing here a couple of years ago. But it's OK, Suzianne. A lot of Christians lump Christianity and Judaism together rather glibly and exclude Islam from their sweeping comments, despite the 'Jesus elephant' in the room
I know the Old Testament's claim on Creation. I don't know the Koran's claim on Creation.
I'd rather speak with authority on things I know than speak with uncertainty on things I don't.
You attack me either way, so perhaps that is your failing, not mine.
@fmf saidI explained my position. If you insist on "playing the man" instead of taking what I said at face value, that's for you to accommodate.
The creation story of all three Abrahamic religions is more or less identical. You know this because you and I had a conversation about this very thing here a couple of years ago. But it's OK, Suzianne. A lot of Christians lump Christianity and Judaism together rather glibly and exclude Islam from their sweeping comments, despite the 'Jesus elephant' in the room
@suzianne saidI have told you stuff that you apparently did not know about the creation story of all three Abrahamic religions and about the identity/status and significance of Jesus in those religions too. That is "playing the ball". Your "position" ought to be modified now.
I explained my position. If you insist on "playing the man" instead of taking what I said at face value, that's for you to accommodate.