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The brand of Christianity that many Christians profess here, when you boil it down to its essence and factor in the realities of the human condition, is an ideology of shedding personal responsibility for living a moral life along with a big dollop of 'I'm alright Jack'.
Originally posted by @fmfIf God is to be "perfect" Love then to me Christian Spirituality should be about finding a "way" to bring that into fruition in one's own life. A way that doesn't have all the answers before one starts, a way that begins with trust and faith rather than belief and a way that emphasises how we live in this life rather than arguing the doctrinal toss about what may happen afterwards if there is one. It's about letting one's life speak. Teresa of Avila said that Christ has no feet on earth but ours which is a sobering thought for any Christian looking to demonstrate this perfect love vision of God in their lives. Incidentally I see all that at odds with a vision of God as some sort of mafia boss figure extorting compliance with capricious threats. Personally I have yet to be convinced there is a life after death beyond in the memories of our nearest and dearest, but I can acknowledge something sacred or divine in life that also comes with some sort of imperative as to how it should be lived.
Is a lot of "RHP Christianity" actually a convoluted distorted Christian creed that appeals to people who want to believe in an afterlife while pontificating about "sin" and immorality but are afraid of being judged for how they themselves actually live their lives?
Originally posted by @ragwortI have been around and among Christians all my life. The type that predominates here in this community ~ a rather unrepresentative lot, I'd say, at least in my experience ~ seem to have an ideology that involves thinking their way to an afterlife ~ thinking stuff rather than doing stuff:
If God is to be "perfect" Love then to me Christian Spirituality should be about finding a "way" to bring that into fruition in one's own life. A way that doesn't have all the answers before one starts, a way that begins with trust and faith rather than belief and a way that emphasises how we live in this life rather than arguing the doctrinal toss about what may happen afterwards if there is one. It's about letting one's life speak.
if they think certain supernatural things are true, they tell themselves... and anyone who'll listen... then they believe - and declare - they are "forgiven" and "saved" [already, no less].
Only some tiny, tiny percentage of posts by such ideologues relate to action, behaviour, obligations, dilemmas, issues, and the nitty-gritty of actually navigating a path for a Christian life whilst obeying Jesus' commands ~ except only in the most pretentious and self-servingly abstract ways.
They only pay lip service to the issue of how one lives one's life. The ideology is The Thing ~ and seemingly The Thing never includes the applications or real-world implications of the ideology. At least in many cases here.
There was one high volume poster here recently who seemed to insist that one should not make any proactive effort to do good works but should instead just let some sort of supernatural 'force' do what it wants with the believer ~ and if the 'force' doesn't make the believer do much, then that is 'God's will' and it doesn't matter: if one simply believes in the existence of that supernatural 'force', then one is "forgiven" and "saved" anyway, come what may.
Sometimes it sounds like little more than a kind of elaborate cop-out.
So, it would seem we are in agreement, although I appreciate that you might not necessarily endorse all the edges that are to be found in my version of it..
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou should post less often.
Weren't these the exact same words you used to lure Jacob V, here a while back before you went at him full on with your smear campaign?
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Originally posted by @fmfIf there are no moral absolutes why shouldn't everyone just do as they see fit?
Is a lot of "RHP Christianity" actually a convoluted distorted Christian creed that appeals to people who want to believe in an afterlife while pontificating about "sin" and immorality but are afraid of being judged for how they themselves actually live their lives?
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Originally posted by @fmfIf there is no absolute truth everyone can view everyone else's views as convoluted and distorted without anyone being right or wrong about it. Who is to say your views aren't convoluted and distorted?
Is a lot of "RHP Christianity" actually a convoluted distorted Christian creed that appeals to people who want to believe in an afterlife while pontificating about "sin" and immorality but are afraid of being judged for how they themselves actually live their lives?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerDo you think there is a special prize if you ask this question 100 times? (And have you seriously forgotten the answers people have given to this tiresome question? )
If there are no moral absolutes why shouldn't everyone just do as they see fit?
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeDo you think there is a special prize for pretending to have answered a question that you clearly haven’t?
Do you think there is a special prize if you ask this question 100 times? (And have you seriously forgotten the answers people have given to this tiresome question? )