Originally posted by @fmf
What do you think is "judged" on "Judgement Day", so to speak
Effectively nothing. Except maybe the life of Christ.
Judgment doctrine teaches that there are two groups of people, those under condemnation and those not under condemnation. Those who are in Christ are “no longer under condemnation”, therefore those who are not in Christ are still under condemnation. However I am not convinced that the latter follows the former.
The bible speaks of judgment day as people standing individually before god and “books being opened”, at least that’s how the vision goes in Revelation.
So let’s try to think this through, we allegedly have a group of people who are no longer under condemnation and therefore not being judged and not having “books opened “ about them...? But it doesn’t say that as far as I remember, I think the bible talks about everyone being judged. Furthermore if everyone who is not in Christ will be “cast in the lake of fire”, what is the point of reading “books” about what they have done? Wouldn’t it be easier just to “edit, select all, delete/burn for eternity”.
If I can therefore move to a place where everyone is being judged, then surely there is a hope for everyone and the judging is more about reward than punishment. In fact the bible speaks a lot about reward in heaven, about it being different for different people and therefore not being salvation itself.
Finally if eternal torture is the “reward” for not being in Christ, then all the evil acts done in the world go unpunished. It is an interepation which doesn’t add up, doesn’t make any sense.
So Christ died for all...and all are “saved”...but
But we are all judged and rewarded according to our deeds.
No one is tortured alive for all eternity for not believing in Jesus, they are just rewarded differently.
This is the best sense I can make of it. No doubt sonship will be along shortly to post his scripture about Jesus saying people will be cast into the lake of fire and I will have to post psalm whatever it was and he will post his favourite scripture again ... and so on and so forth.