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Is grievance politics "sinful"?

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For non-theists, what are the moral questions surrounding the C21st's strong undercurrent of grievance politics in many parts of the world?

For theists, are there issues pertaining to "sin" rooted in this brand/theme of politics?

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@FMF

Take it to the General or Debates forums.

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@josephw said
@FMF

Take it to the General or Debates forums.
No thanks. This is where it belongs.

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@fmf said
For non-theists, what are the moral questions surrounding the C21st's strong undercurrent of grievance politics in many parts of the world?

For theists, are there issues pertaining to "sin" rooted in this brand/theme of politics?
For theists, are there issues pertaining to "sin" rooted in this brand/theme of politics?


Sadly, there are almost too many to mention. For 40 years one of Americas major political parties have strongly implied that "God is on their side" Failure to march in lockstep with their agenda means one is automatically labeled an evil Godless, communist heretic, who never works, and only wants free stuff. Within all this is a number of sub-issues that would take up too much space to explain here. Personally, I think its lunacy to use scripture as a political tool, but it's part of the glue that holds them together.

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@mchill said
Within all this is a number of sub-issues that would take up too much space to explain here.
Any thoughts about grievance politics and the potential for "sin"?

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@fmf said
Any thoughts about grievance politics and the potential for "sin"?
I don't think anyone here is interested.

I don't think it's normal for someone that doesn't believe in anything that come out of the Bible to persistently talk about what come out of the Bible.

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@josephw said
I don't think anyone here is interested.
Be that as it may, it's a topic that I find interesting.

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@fmf said
Be that as it may, it's a topic that I find interesting.
You find something you don't believe exists interesting?

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@josephw said
I don't think it's normal for someone that doesn't believe in anything that come out of the Bible to persistently talk about what come out of the Bible.
Whether or not you think I am "normal" is not important, I think there is not another book in human history that has as much historical, cultural, and moral significance as the Bible - and this forum is the appropriate venue for discussing the implications.

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@josephw said
You find something you don't believe exists interesting?
I find belief in God figures - and the religious literature attendant thereto - very interesting indeed.

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@fmf said
Whether or not you think I am "normal" is not important, I think there is not another book in human history that has as much historical, cultural, and moral significance as the Bible - and this forum is the appropriate venue for discussing the implications.
I said I didn't think "it" was normal. If you are normal I'll have to take your word for it.

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@josephw said
I said I didn't think "it" was normal. If you are normal I'll have to take your word for it.
If you have any thoughts on the thread's topic, it would be more interesting than this kind of chatter.

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@fmf said
I find belief in God figures - and the religious literature attendant thereto - very interesting indeed.
Just wait till you come face to face with God if you think "belief in God figures" interesting now!

You'll be speechless then.

I don't think I'll ever understand how someone that doesn't believe in the existence of a creator God (not a God figure) can be very interested at all.

Except perhaps if the discussion of "it" serves to reinforce unbelief. Like a coping mechanism of sorts to ameliorate a nagging conscience.

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@josephw said
I don't think I'll ever understand how someone that doesn't believe in the existence of a creator God (not a God figure) can be very interested at all.
Well, I answered your question, thus: I think there is not another book [or God figure] in human history that has as much historical, cultural, and moral significance as the Bible - and this forum is the appropriate venue for discussing the implications. Maybe you won't ever understand that reason for finding out interesting, but there it is - plainly stated - nevertheless.

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@josephw said
Except perhaps if the discussion of "it" serves to reinforce unbelief. Like a coping mechanism of sorts to ameliorate a nagging conscience.
You have a point. I think this forum has for a decade or more been an arena in which many people advocate for the sake of advocating and do so without needing to feel they are modifying others' beliefs. Some of my stances might be seen that way. But your conjecture about "a nagging conscience" is wide of the mark.