Is grievance politics "sinful"?

@josephw said
Just wait till you come face to face with God if you think "belief in God figures" interesting now!You'll be speechless then.

This is perhaps the weakest kind of proselytizing there is available to you. You resort to it all too often.

@fmf said
Well, I answered your question, thus: I think there is not another book [or God figure] in human history that has as much historical, cultural, and moral significance as the Bible - and this forum is the appropriate venue for discussing the implications. Maybe you won't ever understand that reason for finding out interesting, but there it is - plainly stated - nevertheless.

There isn't another Book like it in existence because it is the inspired word of God.

Your interest in it really doesn't mean much unless you come to know its author. Then you'll know what's really interesting about the Bible.

@fmf said
This is perhaps the weakest kind of proselytizing there is available to you. You resort to it all too often.

Because it's true.

You argue about everything discussed anyway.

@josephw said
Because it's true.

Regardless of how certain your faith makes you think it is true, threats/warnings about how awful you say it's going to be for non-believers to meet your God figure after they die, are arguably the weakest kind of proselytizing there is. Save it for the indoctrination of children. Take it from me.

@josephw said
You argue about everything discussed anyway.

Making, swapping, and comparing arguments is the lifeblood of a debate and discussion message board such as this.

@fmf said
For non-theists, what are the moral questions surrounding the C21st's strong undercurrent of grievance politics in many parts of the world?

For theists, are there issues pertaining to "sin" rooted in this brand/theme of politics?

Would you give an example?

@bigdogg said
Would you give an example?

An example of an issue that springs from grievance politics?

@fmf said
An example of an issue that springs from grievance politics?

An example of a particular grievance.

The term sounds vague. It might apply to any complaint of a political nature.

@BigDogg
"Grievance politics is defined by the fuelling and funneling of negative emotions and various blame-based political strategies which explicitly challenge and confound many of the core principles and values that have traditionally underpinned conventional conceptions of party politics."

~ not my words [https://tinyurl.com/46bp7fun]

See also: the politics of envy [or resentment]

See also: culture wars

See also: some elements of identity politics

As in: I’m a deserving citizen and a hardworking American [replace with a nationality of your choice] and all the things I deserve are actually going to other people who are less deserving because the government is against people like me.

@bigdogg said
It might apply to any complaint of a political nature.

Maybe so. I hope the vagueness doesn't preclude you from weighing the stuff it "might" mean and peering at it through a moral /spiritual prism. 🙂

@fmf said
As in: I’m a deserving citizen and a hardworking American [replace with a nationality of your choice] and all the things I deserve are actually going to other people who are less deserving because the government is against people like me.

Cue fulminations about unfairness that reference tax, welfare, race, sexuality, age, religion, freedom, rights, culture, history, wealth etc. Found across the political spectrum, left, right, maybe less so in the "centre".