to take a service. with the shortage of priests . there seems to be a inclination for lay people to minister services, tho the blessing of wine and bread is still done by a priest before and brought to the place of worship. ive been granted this if our priest takes ill [he has health issues] im hounered but a little bit unsure of the value it places on the service, i know its only going to be used in a emergancy, but its the presedent it sets..
Originally posted by stokerit's ok as long as you have that sort of attitude. if you follow the truth
to take a service. with the shortage of priests . there seems to be a inclination for lay people to minister services, tho the blessing of wine and bread is still done by a priest before and brought to the place of worship. ive been granted this if our priest takes ill [he has health issues] im hounered but a little bit unsure of the value it places on the service, i know its only going to be used in a emergancy, but its the presedent it sets..
Originally posted by stokerThe important thing I would think is that the service in being done.
to take a service. with the shortage of priests . there seems to be a inclination for lay people to minister services, tho the blessing of wine and bread is still done by a priest before and brought to the place of worship. ive been granted this if our priest takes ill [he has health issues] im hounered but a little bit unsure of the value it places on the service, i know its only going to be used in a emergancy, but its the presedent it sets..
I don't see how it would diminish the value placed on the service
as long as it is done correctly.
Originally posted by RJHindsIf a woman steps in to replace the ailing priest, would it diminish the value placed on the service assuming it is done correctly?
The important thing I would think is that the service in being done.
I don't see how it would diminish the value placed on the service
as long as it is done correctly.
Originally posted by stokerIt depends on the church. For those that believe in an ordained, ministerial priesthood, the substitution of a lay person would completely compromise the value of the liturgy. The Catholic Church on occasions grants permission for a lay person to distribute Communion when a priest is unavailable but this is not the same as a Mass, does not fulfill the Sunday obligation and is not considered to have the same spiritual value.
to take a service. with the shortage of priests . there seems to be a inclination for lay people to minister services, tho the blessing of wine and bread is still done by a priest before and brought to the place of worship. ive been granted this if our priest takes ill [he has health issues] im hounered but a little bit unsure of the value it places on the service, i know its only going to be used in a emergancy, but its the presedent it sets..
Originally posted by stokerSay a prayer for guidance, follow your heart, and when you can, ask the priest or the priest's superiors/colleagues. If your blessing is not valid and you deliver unconsecrated wine and bread, it will be no harm, IMO. If you want, tell the congregation what the situation is, and they can choose whether to receive. I am confident that your sincerity will be acknowledged. For whatever my opinion is worth.
to take a service. with the shortage of priests . there seems to be a inclination for lay people to minister services, tho the blessing of wine and bread is still done by a priest before and brought to the place of worship. ive been granted this if our priest takes ill [he has health issues] im hounered but a little bit unsure of the value it places on the service, i know its only going to be used in a emergancy, but its the presedent it sets..
Originally posted by JS357i value all oppinions , but i missed the point that in case of this happening i would go to another church nearby and that priest would consecrate the bread and wine, [he has his own service to attend] then i would return to do the service.
Say a prayer for guidance, follow your heart, and when you can, ask the priest or the priest's superiors/colleagues. If your blessing is not valid and you deliver unconsecrated wine and bread, it will be no harm, IMO. If you want, tell the congregation what the situation is, and they can choose whether to receive. I am confident that your sincerity will be acknowledged. For whatever my opinion is worth.
Originally posted by stokerbiblically sound and correct. it may even add life to the congregation
to take a service. with the shortage of priests . there seems to be a inclination for lay people to minister services, tho the blessing of wine and bread is still done by a priest before and brought to the place of worship. ive been granted this if our priest takes ill [he has health issues] im hounered but a little bit unsure of the value it places on the service, i know its only going to be used in a emergancy, but its the presedent it sets..
2 edits
Originally posted by stokerWhat kind of church is this? I mean, you speak of priest and consecration, which is heavy language for sacerdotal ministry. Even with their different notions of priesthood, Catholics, Orthodox Christians, Anglicans and Episcopalians and Lutherans all forbid layman from presiding at Communion. I don't know of any other church that believes in ministerial priesthood, as opposed to just pastorship, and allows a layman to consecrate.
i value all oppinions , but i missed the point that in case of this happening i would go to another church nearby and that priest would consecrate the bread and wine, [he has his own service to attend] then i would return to do the service.
1 edit
Originally posted by Conrau Kwhere in my post have i given the idea im consecrating the bread and wine. ive written that a priest will do this and then i bring it to the service as a layman and the service will continue with the distribution, which is allowed in all you mention. ive known of it once before but never been there when it took place
What kind of church is this? I mean, you speak of priest and consecration, which is heavy language for sacerdotal ministry. Even with their different notions of priesthood, Catholics, Orthodox Christians, Anglicans and Episcopalians and Lutherans all forbid layman from presiding at Communion. I don't know of any other church that believes in ministerial priesthood, as opposed to just pastorship, and allows a layman to consecrate.