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    16 Jun '06 10:42
    I know some people believe scientists will never be able to synthesize life in the lab. Do these people thing scientists will be able to synthesize viruses?
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    16 Jun '06 10:54
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I know some people believe scientists will never be able to synthesize life in the lab. Do these people thing scientists will be able to synthesize viruses?
    If scientists do, I guess these people will dispute that the virus is not a living thing or that viruses do not have consciousness like us. Either way thay will confuse the issue.
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    16 Jun '06 11:231 edit
    depends what you mean by synthesise a virus. if you mean build one from scratch from base protines, the yes eventually. if you mean take bits of viruses and put them together to make a new one then it is done all the time.

    this isn't really a spiritual question. maybe we need a science forum as we have a spirituality one.
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    16 Jun '06 11:251 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    depends what you mean by synthesise a virus. if you mean build one from scratch from base protines, the yes eventually. if you mean take bits of viruses and put them together to make a new one then it is done all the time.

    this isn't really a spiritual question. maybe we need a science forum as we have a spirituality one.
    And duplicate the evolution debates? Are you mad? I don't think my brain could take it....
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    16 Jun '06 11:31
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    If scientists do, I guess these people will dispute that the virus is not a living thing or that viruses do not have consciousness like us. Either way thay will confuse the issue.
    What's to confuse. Define "living". 😛😀
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    the evolution debates should stay in the spirituality forum as there is no scientific argument as to whether evolution hapens or not. anyway I have posted the question in site ideas, so the discussion can carry on there.
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    16 Jun '06 12:28
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    depends what you mean by synthesise a virus. if you mean build one from scratch from base protines, the yes eventually. if you mean take bits of viruses and put them together to make a new one then it is done all the time.

    this isn't really a spiritual question. maybe we need a science forum as we have a spirituality one.
    This belongs here because I am addressing those who think there is some sort of supernatural "life force" which human scientists cannot replicate. These people do exist, right?
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    a prion could be made first
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    20 Jun '06 00:27
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    the evolution debates should stay in the spirituality forum as there is no scientific argument as to whether evolution hapens or not. anyway I have posted the question in site ideas, so the discussion can carry on there.
    You mean 'no scientific evidence' you personally would accept. The vast majority of real scientists would disagree wholeheartedly with you. There are so many volumes of evidence it makes the head spin but you appear not to be one of those able to accept such evidence, instead with mere pronouncement, they are false, you think you have won your case. Actually all you have done is delude yourself.
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    20 Jun '06 00:37
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    You mean 'no scientific evidence' you personally would accept. The vast majority of real scientists would disagree wholeheartedly with you. There are so many volumes of evidence it makes the head spin but you appear not to be one of those able to accept such evidence, instead with mere pronouncement, they are false, you think you have won your case. Actually all you have done is delude yourself.
    I think he means that within the realms of science we're completely happy with evolution. It's only creationists that have issue with it.
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    20 Jun '06 00:55
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    I think he means that within the realms of science we're completely happy with evolution. It's only creationists that have issue with it.
    not all creationists take issue with evolution.

    but, biblical inerrantists do.
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    20 Jun '06 01:061 edit
    Originally posted by Big Mac
    not all creationists take issue with evolution.

    but, biblical inerrantists do.
    Okay, perhaps I should have said Young Earth Creationists.

    [edit; or, as you say, biblical literalists.]
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    20 Jun '06 02:40
    Originally posted by Big Mac
    not all creationists take issue with evolution.

    but, biblical inerrantists do.
    Which parts of evolution contradict scripture in your opinion?
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    20 Jun '06 02:40
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    Okay, perhaps I should have said Young Earth Creationists.

    [edit; or, as you say, biblical literalists.]
    I am a Biblical literalist who believes in old earth creation.
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    20 Jun '06 02:44
    Originally posted by whodey
    I am a Biblical literalist who believes in old earth creation.
    If you believe in old earth creation you're not a bible literalist. You obviously do not really believe that the earth was created in 7 days.
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