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    "In a century which gave us relativity theory, quantum theory, superstring theory and chaos theory, is it preposterous to think that there are major surprises also waiting for us in the human mind? When mathematicians are debating whether there are seven, eleven, or thirteen dimensions to our universe, when astrophysicists are considering whether black holes might be portals to other dimensions and quantum physicists are mapping particles that pop in and out of physical existence, coming from and returning to we know not where, is it really…absurd…to consider the possibility that our minds may not be restricted to the simple four-dimensional spacetime world we can touch with our fingers and toes?" pages 38-9

    "The seminal insight being articulated is the discovery that parts cannot be meaningfully isolated from the systems in which they exist. In the subatomic world of quantum mechanics and the macro-world modeled by non-linear mathematics, all individual, particulate existence shows itself to be inseparable from its corresponding fields. Individual pieces of life cannot be realistically isolated from their surrounding matrix. ..Our challenge at this point is to …grasp the fact that what is true of the living systems that surround us is also true of ourselves in the deepest possible sense." page 156
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    Excerpts from "Dark Night, Early Dawn: Steps to a Deep Ecology of Mind"
    Suny Press, 2000. Author Chris Bache.

    [Chris Bache has been a professor of religious studies at Youngstown State University for over two decades. He teaches in transpersonal studies, comparative spirituality, consciousness research, and Eastern religion. An award-winning teacher, his work explores the philosophical implications of non-ordinary states of consciousness. He is also an adjunct professor at the California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco and for two years was the Director of Transformative Learning at the Institute of Noetic Sciences.]

    Source: http://www.annebaring.com/anbar11_new-vis02_soul.htm#cosmic
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    07 Jan '13 19:09
    Originally posted by Taoman
    "In a century which gave us relativity theory, quantum theory, superstring theory and chaos theory, is it preposterous to think that there are major surprises also waiting for us in the human mind? When mathematicians are debating whether there are seven, eleven, or thirteen dimensions to our universe, when astrophysicists are considering whether black holes ...[text shortened]... f Noetic Sciences.]

    Source: http://www.annebaring.com/anbar11_new-vis02_soul.htm#cosmic
    Is it so absurd to think of the theory of evolution as a fairy tale or a joke? 😏
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    12 Jan '13 13:13
    Originally posted by Taoman
    "In a century which gave us relativity theory, quantum theory, superstring theory and chaos theory, is it preposterous to think that there are major surprises also waiting for us in the human mind? When mathematicians are debating whether there are seven, eleven, or thirteen dimensions to our universe, when astrophysicists are considering whether black holes ...[text shortened]... f Noetic Sciences.]

    Source: http://www.annebaring.com/anbar11_new-vis02_soul.htm#cosmic
    Is there no end to "theory" and "speculation"?

    How about some solid evidence? All I read in the quotes you provided is a confabulation of ideas and concepts without a single tangible.

    Why can't these lofty minded people find a way to feed the starving instead of producing impractical and inapplicable verbiage.
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    12 Jan '13 14:50
    Originally posted by josephw
    Is there no end to "theory" and "speculation"?

    How about some solid evidence? All I read in the quotes you provided is a confabulation of ideas and concepts without a single tangible.

    Why can't these lofty minded people find a way to feed the starving instead of producing impractical and inapplicable verbiage.
    And yet you're quite happy to follow the bible without any solid evidence for any of the events therein described?
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    12 Jan '13 15:10
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Is it so absurd to think of the theory of evolution as a fairy tale or a joke? 😏
    The wonder that is reality can be approached in both ways. It can start with, "Once upon a time..." or "A priest, a rabbi and a giraffe walk into a bar...". It can even start with, "In the beginning...".
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    12 Jan '13 15:47
    Originally posted by JS357
    The wonder that is reality can be approached in both ways. It can start with, "Once upon a time..." or "A priest, a rabbi and a giraffe walk into a bar...". It can even start with, "In the beginning...".
    ...or absolute silence...
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    12 Jan '13 21:39
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    And yet you're quite happy to follow the bible without any solid evidence for any of the events therein described?
    Can't you read?

    "In the beginning God created..."

    Are you blind?
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    12 Jan '13 23:18
    Originally posted by josephw
    Can't you read?

    "In the beginning God created..."

    Are you blind?
    Yes, no, and how is that relevant?
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    13 Jan '13 03:50
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Is it so absurd to think of the theory of evolution as a fairy tale or a joke? 😏
    Boy, are you right in the middle of the argument. Amazing insight.
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    13 Jan '13 06:101 edit
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    And yet you're quite happy to follow the bible without any solid evidence for any of the events therein described?
    Not one single Christian simply just follows the bible without any solid evidence of the events therein described.
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    13 Jan '13 08:20
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Is it so absurd to think of the theory of evolution as a fairy tale or a joke? 😏
    yes it is.😏
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    13 Jan '13 08:33
    Originally posted by hakima
    ...or absolute silence...
  13. Standard memberRJHinds
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    13 Jan '13 08:38
    Originally posted by caissad4
    yes it is.😏
    The Big Bang Theory is doing well as a comedy show and I think the Evolution Theory would do likewise. 😏
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    13 Jan '13 13:18
    Originally posted by sumydid
    Not one single Christian simply just follows the bible without any solid evidence of the events therein described.
    What you call evidence, and what is actually evidence are not necessarily the same though, eh?
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    13 Jan '13 13:28
    Originally posted by sumydid
    Not one single Christian simply just follows the bible without any solid evidence of the events therein described.
    This is simply not so in my experience. I have met Christians - including some members of my extended family - who are [or were] entirely credulous and uninterested in anything but their own faith for its own sake.
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