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Galveston,
The JW's track record does not encourage their understanding of the Bible to faultless or even good too much of the time.
You all predicted the imminent return of Jesus in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1943, 1975. Each prophecy of the higher ups in the JWs FAILED.
I think by now they may have learned not to predict the year.
You should realize by now something is wrong.
As for Jesus Christ being Michael the Archangel, it is impossible.
The rhetorical question of Hebrews 1:5 - "To which of the angels has He ever said, You are My Son, this day I have begotten You? ..." has its answer of "TO NO ANGEL".
You say the answer is Michael.
It could only be two or at most three names - Gabriel, Michael, perhaps Daystar (Lucifer in Latin).
To NO angel, is the answer. And this section of Hebrews which is specifically designed to prove that Christ is superior to the angels. That is what Hebrews 1:4-14 has as the major thrust of its argument.
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@sonship saidI already posted all of that. Again, are there any original thoughts in your head or is all your writings plagiarized?
Galveston,
The JW's track record does not encourage their understanding of the Bible is faultless.
You all predicted the imminent return of Jesus in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1943, 1975. Each prophecy of the higher ups in the JWs FAILED.
I think by now they may have learned not to predict the year.
You should realize by now something is wrong.
As for ...[text shortened]... superior to the angels. That is what Hebrews 1:4-14 has as the major thrust of its argument.
That is exactly why I said you just copy the writings of others without acknowledgment.
Another megalamaniac ? Do you think I learn from you just now about this ??
So we write something similar and each accuse the other of immediately plagiarizing ??
If you want me to say that on that point you answered well, I will say that.
Such kudos are not mandatory around here.
@sonship saidYou read what I said. Then you post the same thing. The fact that you do this constantly ie repeat what others say without acknowledging that it was said before says something about you. You do this all the time. Its not about me.
@Rajk999That is exactly why I said you just copy the writings of others without acknowledgment.
Another megalamaniac ? Do you think I learn from you just now about this ??
So we write something similar and each accuse the other of immediately plagiarizing ??
If you want me to say that on that point you answered well, I will say that.
Such kudos are not mandatory around here.
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You read what I said. Then you post the same thing. The fact that you do this constantly ie repeat what others say without acknowledging that it was said before says something about you. You do this all the time. Its not about me.
No I didn't Rajk999.
Galverston, tell this guy Rajk999 that I have explained this to you before in years gone by, either to you or Robbie Carrobie.
I didn't say admit that you agree (though you should).
I simply said - Have I not argued Hebrews 1:5 before with either you or Robbie Carrobie the other Forum JW ?
If you don't remember. I KNOW that I have. The thought that I just picked it up today from Rajk999 is ludicrous.
@sonship saidI believe it was to Robbie but I do remember that we've discussed it before. But with Rajk it doesn't matter. All he cares about is yelling at everyone with his holier then thou mouth.
@Rajk999You read what I said. Then you post the same thing. The fact that you do this constantly ie repeat what others say without acknowledging that it was said before says something about you. You do this all the time. Its not about me.
No I didn't Rajk999.
Galverston, tell this guy Rajk999 that I have explained this to you before in years gone ...[text shortened]... remember. I KNOW that I have. The thought that I just picked it up today from Rajk999 is ludicrous.
Don't let it get to you as hard as that is for any of us.
@sonship saidYes the thing about the year issues is first no harm was ever meant to happen. I know a few that unfortunately took actions with their daily life's that was upsetting. I knew a couple people when the year 1975 was thought by some to possibly be a date of note to do such things as sell all their belongings and wait on Armageddon to start. What selling their belongings was supposed to accomplish I have no idea. But a couple points is yes the WTS mentioned that 1975 was a year that marked 6K years since Adam was created. And that was it. Some took it to mean more and that was their ideas.
Galveston,
The JW's track record does not encourage their understanding of the Bible to faultless or even good too much of the time.
You all predicted the imminent return of Jesus in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1943, 1975. Each prophecy of the higher ups in the JWs FAILED.
I think by now they may have learned not to predict the year.
You should realize by ...[text shortened]... superior to the angels. That is what Hebrews 1:4-14 has as the major thrust of its argument.
So why did we see the need to even mention those dates? Yes in the beginning of the WTS as new understandings became noticed from scriptures that previously made no sense to anyone, the brothers knew they meant something for the future. As the bible says that as time progressed and we get deeper into the end of the system before Armageddon happens the Bible describes other events such as is mentioned in the NT such as things getting worse for all of mankind that would give clues to the dangerous time that would precede Armageddon.
So the early brothers were still in the dark somewhat but did get excited with this new knowledge and jumped the gun so to say and didn't wait to really get the clear and sure understandings the bible says of the last days. The bible clearly says that as time went on that "the light of truth would become brighter and brighter" until it would all be clear to see.
I hope this helps and now I can't wait to see what the three bozos here have to say on this. It really doesn't matter, but still can't wait to see...
@sonship saidI never said that you did not already what I wrote. Did I? We have had many of these discussions over the years. Courteous posters would acknowledge what they already read like say .. as pointed out by xyz the bible says .... You did it in this thread and you did it in another with KJ. You simple repeated what he said.
@Rajk999You read what I said. Then you post the same thing. The fact that you do this constantly ie repeat what others say without acknowledging that it was said before says something about you. You do this all the time. Its not about me.
No I didn't Rajk999.
Galverston, tell this guy Rajk999 that I have explained this to you before in years gone ...[text shortened]... remember. I KNOW that I have. The thought that I just picked it up today from Rajk999 is ludicrous.
You need some chat forum etiquette lessons
@galveston75 saidYou support false prophets, and false teachers.
Yes the thing about the year issues is first no harm was ever meant to happen. I know a few that unfortunately took actions with their daily life's that was upsetting. I knew a couple people when the year 1975 was thought by some to possibly be a date of note to do such things as sell all their belongings and wait on Armageddon to start. What selling their belongings was ...[text shortened]... the three bozos here have to say on this. It really doesn't matter, but still can't wait to see...
@rajk999 saidWell heck ya I do. I also make donations to gnomes helping with their cause, hang out with the Jolly Green giant, swim with mermaids and best of all have dinner quite often with those little men from Mars... Would you like to join us someday????
You support false prophets, and false teachers.
@sonship saidBe careful now. He also uses the words "the" "and" and "is" and sometimes even the words "I'm wrong". Oh no, not correct. He would never use those. Sorry Rajk!
@Rajk999That is exactly why I said you just copy the writings of others without acknowledgment.
Another megalamaniac ? Do you think I learn from you just now about this ??
So we write something similar and each accuse the other of immediately plagiarizing ??
If you want me to say that on that point you answered well, I will say that.
Such kudos are not mandatory around here.
But anyway you can't use any words he uses or else you'll be coping him.
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Galveston,
So when you read Matthew 28:19 which is
Go therefore and disciples all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. "
You understand the great commission to be - go baptized them into the name of the Father Jehovah, Michael the archangel, and a force. Is that right ?