11 May 15
Originally posted by DeepThought1) Given that even the bible acknowledges most people will go to hell while a few saved people will go to heaven, the odds against the "proposed mechanism" working are fairly slim.
At the cost of one's own allegedly immortal soul? There are two souls at stake and a proposed mechanism for saving both of them. So no I don't think Christianity logically necessitates the killing of children to save them.
2) One could genuinely repent and ask for forgiveness after going on a killing spree.
Right?
11 May 15
Originally posted by vivifyI suspect that the bible assumes that most will not become Christians. Regarding point 2 I don't think it can count as genuine repentance if it is built into the plan from the start.
1) Given that even the bible acknowledges most people will go to hell while a few saved people will go to heaven, the odds against the "proposed mechanism" working are fairly slim.
2) One could genuinely repent and ask for forgiveness after going on a killing spree.
Right?
11 May 15
Originally posted by vivifyWith respect, I think I offered a better version of this question in Whodey's Hilary Clinton thread as it doesn't involve killing. However I agree with your premise which underlines the problem with modern churches creating doctrine by moralising on non scripturally specific issues.
Christians: Is it better to kill a small child (who most Christians believe won't go to hell), thereby ensuring passage to an everlasting paradise, or better to let them live and risk their eternal torment after growing up?
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11 May 15
Originally posted by DeepThoughtWhat if you surprise yourself and genuinely do regret your actions? Won't god know this and accept your repentance, even though it was your plan from day one?
...I don't think it can count as genuine repentance if it is built into the plan from the start.
11 May 15
Originally posted by DeepThoughtThe person could be genuinely full of sorrow for displeasing God, much the way a religious person knows adultery is wrong before going through with it. Or in the same way King David plotted to kill a man to cover up sleeping with the man's wife, yet was genuinely remorseful afterward, when the prophet told him God was displeased.
I suspect that the bible assumes that most will not become Christians. Regarding point 2 I don't think it can count as genuine repentance if it is built into the plan from the start.
11 May 15
Originally posted by C HessYes, but this is not something that can be planned for.
What if you surprise yourself and genuinely do regret your actions? Won't god know this and accept your repentance, even though it was your plan from day one?
Incidentally, I see the Phantom down-voter is back.
12 May 15
Originally posted by vivifyGenerally it is better to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Christians: Is it better to kill a small child (who most Christians believe won't go to hell), thereby ensuring passage to an everlasting paradise, or better to let them live and risk their eternal torment after growing up?
HalleluYahshua !
12 May 15
Originally posted by DeepThoughtSo the plan from the start is to save all the children ,,,,,,,,,,,,and God is going to send you to hell for doing that?
I suspect that the bible assumes that most will not become Christians. Regarding point 2 I don't think it can count as genuine repentance if it is built into the plan from the start.
Dont think so.