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    Is Man Serving God?

    Author :Chang Kai-Chi

    In many monotheistic missionaries or believers, people often hear their life goals are "You must know how to fear God, believe in God, rely on God, and serve God!"

    Seems their main point is because "God is omnipotent!"

    Comparing with the God’s omnipotence", why do "almighty gods" need incompetent people to serve? If it is not God's will, why human willingness to serve the God; it is like a small ant trying to effortlessly massage a human body. For human, will an ant fulfill that function?

    Seems the "serving God" could be classified as subconsciously eager to receive "self and caring from God's ministry"! And it becomes a contradiction: "Everything depends on God, let God lead us..." .

    Is it right to let God serve the people?

    “Please God” so he could “lead”, but the "leading" itself is not a service?

    In addition, like “blessings between friends and relatives and the words of condolences for sadness”, "May the Lord forgive your sins and let you recover soon!", "May God give you good luck...", "Don't be sad, those bad guys and those who hurt you will give God to sanction and sin..."

    As for being more selfish, people pray for God to "save", "bless", "give wealth", "give peace and happiness", "give love and success", "enlisted on the honor roll", "wining in the war” , “destroy the enemy”, "power the king with throne", even including the praying such as "God help find lost things”, etc. All these are not "God is serving people"?

    As for "people serve God"? I do not see it.

    Sunday church praying (sometimes dozing and socializing), personal or group worshiping daily or weekly, or church room cleaning services, donation, singing and praising the poetry of the Lord.. all these could be classified as "serving God"? ? ?

    In fact, there is no God who needs people to serve! Nor God will serve human. Everyone is their own mentor. They are not servants of God. In the meantime, don’t be day-dreaming that God will satisfy people selfishness desire.

    http://www.cwnp.net/thread-13984-1-1.html

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/2260704707486729/
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    11 Oct '18 16:44
    @wsay123000 said
    Is Man Serving God?

    Author :Chang Kai-Chi

    In many monotheistic missionaries or believers, people often hear their life goals are "You must know how to fear God, believe in God, rely on God, and serve God!"

    Seems their main point is because "God is omnipotent!"

    Comparing with the God’s omnipotence", why do "almighty gods" need incompetent people to serve? If it ...[text shortened]... e.

    http://www.cwnp.net/thread-13984-1-1.html

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/2260704707486729/
    I hate to break it to you wsay, but these pronouncements by Chang Kai-Chi are not true. They are only his opinions.
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    11 Oct '18 19:20
    @wsay123000 said
    Is Man Serving God?

    Author :Chang Kai-Chi

    In many monotheistic missionaries or believers, people often hear their life goals are "You must know how to fear God, believe in God, rely on God, and serve God!"

    Seems their main point is because "God is omnipotent!"

    Comparing with the God’s omnipotence", why do "almighty gods" need incompetent people to serve? If it ...[text shortened]... e.

    http://www.cwnp.net/thread-13984-1-1.html

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/2260704707486729/
    Your spammy copy/pasted posts are not going to do well here old chap.
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    11 Oct '18 19:22
    @wsay123000 said
    Is Man Serving God?

    Author :Chang Kai-Chi

    In many monotheistic missionaries or believers, people often hear their life goals are "You must know how to fear God, believe in God, rely on God, and serve God!"

    Seems their main point is because "God is omnipotent!"

    Comparing with the God’s omnipotence", why do "almighty gods" need incompetent people to serve? If it ...[text shortened]... e.

    http://www.cwnp.net/thread-13984-1-1.html

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/2260704707486729/
    What else you got?
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    12 Oct '18 02:26
    @divegeester

    This can't be said to be spam....
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Many articles
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    12 Oct '18 06:59
    @wsay123000 said
    @divegeester

    This can't be said to be spam....
    Yes it can, as long as you cut and paste without comment regarding a specific point Chang Kai-Chi makes.

    Just pick a statement Chang Kai-Chi makes and discuss in your own words what you think of it.
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    12 Oct '18 07:04
    @wsay123000 said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Many articles
    Fortunately there are not. Soon you will run out of material to copy/paste and that will be the end of it. Especially if you fail to discuss in your own words any specific points Chang Kai-Chi makes.
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    12 Oct '18 08:36
    @wsay123000 said
    @divegeester

    This can't be said to be spam....
    Spammy, spamist spam-like in nature and content. Copy/pasted cultish spammy waffle metaphorically jizzed over the forum.
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    12 Oct '18 08:58
    @SecondSon

    I really want to use my own words, but I think his article content is the focus, so it is a bit too strict to be spam.
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    @wsay123000 said
    @SecondSon

    I really want to use my own words, but I think his article content is the focus, so it is a bit too strict to be spam.
    SecondSon didn’t say it was spam, I did.
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    12 Oct '18 09:07
    @divegeester

    Basically, I am using google translator to watch your conversation, hoping that it will not cause any misunderstanding.
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    12 Oct '18 09:09
    @wsay123000 said
    @divegeester

    Basically, I am using google translator to watch your conversation, hoping that it will not cause any misunderstanding.
    OK all the best with that.
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    12 Oct '18 10:46
    @wsay123000 said
    @divegeester

    Basically, I am using google translator to watch your conversation, hoping that it will not cause any misunderstanding.
    Wsay, I hope your google translator conveys to you what I'm saying in Chinese, and in whatever dialect you speak.

    We here in the western world are free thinking moral agents. We do not depend on the beliefs of others to guide us into truth. We learn, make judgements and decide for ourselves what is true or not, and do not follow the dictates of a charismatic human personality.

    At least not all of us.

    My advice to you is to quit while you're ahead. You'll never convince anyone in this forum that Chang Kai-Chi knows what he's talking about.

    Mark my words.
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    12 Oct '18 10:50
    @SecondSon

    I understand what you mean, that is, don't obey the authority easily. I took a long time to understand the author's thoughts and agree, and I am willing to assist. My main purpose is to let European and American friends see our thoughts and discoveries, but it takes time. Because of the problem of turning over, it takes time.
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