Is suicide a sin? Pt.2

Originally posted by @rajk999
Is there an exception to that rule? Of course there is.
Self preservation is one.

Are there any more?
Did you check or are you one of the masses who regurgitate what the church says to them?

Sure, just like there are exceptions to killing at times.

But as a general rule, not good.

Originally posted by @whodey
Sure, just like there are exceptions to killing at times.

But as a general rule, not good.

Who is talking about whether or not it is good.
The question is whether or not it is a sin.

Originally posted by @whodey
Sure, just like there are exceptions to killing at times.

But as a general rule, not good.

'A general rule'??!! WTF!! How would you like it if someone else set about taking your life because they were following a 'general rule'?

Originally posted by @whodey
Sure, just like there are exceptions to killing at times.

But as a general rule, not good.

'A general rule'. How would you like it if someone else set about taking your life because they were following a 'general rule'?

It's the ability of the army to make a person believe it's right to take a life that leaves a soldier susceptible to death. That's the gig and it's over now. Give it up.

Despite what you think you know. The only way to get hurt is to hurt other people.

edit. probably critters too.

Originally posted by @bongallojoe
I have almost ended my life but i got past it, im on ridalin pills now and i feel better.
but if i had committed suicide, would it have been a sin?
I wanted to talk about this a little bit more.

I haven't seen it classified as a sin in the Bible.

Originally posted by @eladar
I haven't seen it classified as a sin in the Bible.

Define 'sin'.

Originally posted by @christopher-albon
Define 'sin'.

You are not a Christian so to try to explain it to you would be meaningless.

Originally posted by @divegeester

I don't ever remember saying that and am happy to address if you bump it.

I thought that might be the case, that you don't remember.

You will see that other Christians included myself have managed to concisely respond to the OP. All your dodging and prevarication is just pretentious waffle sonship, you are incapable of answering a straight forward question about anything and are therefore, in my opinIon, lame as a preacher of the gospel. People have questions and you need to be able to answer.

"pretentious waffle, mumbo jumbo, etc." Be like Paul - As long as Christ is announced , fine.

"Some preach Christ even because of envy and strife, and some also because of good will, ... What then? Only that in every way whether in pretense of in truthfulness, Christ is announced, and in this I rejoice; yes, and I will rejoice."

I didn't debate your comment to BongalloJoe.
I hope the poster got something out of it to encourage him/her towards Jesus Christ.

Edit: you are trapped under the weight of your own strange beliefs and teachings. Get out, get away from the people you hang out with. Get some fresh perspective.

I don't see much "fresh" about your perspective.

Now a couple of questions for you: on another thread.
A few Questions to Dive

Originally posted by @sonship

I don't ever remember saying that and am happy to address if you bump it.

I thought that might be the case, that you don't remember.

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You will see that other Christians included myself have managed to concisely respond to the OP. All your dodging and prevarication is just pretentious waffle sonship, you are incapable of answer ...[text shortened]... e.

Now a couple of questions for you: on another thread.
[b] A few Questions to Dive [/b]

You have no answers and those you do have you often to ashamed to post. You know which ones...don't you.

Originally posted by @eladar
You are not a Christian so to try to explain it to you would be meaningless.

It seems sin is defined by morality which has no mention of religion in it's definition

'principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour.'

Originally posted by @christopher-albon
It seems sin is defined by morality which has no mention of religion in it's definition

'principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour.'

That can be your definition.

Originally posted by @christopher-albon
It seems sin is defined by morality which has no mention of religion in it's definition

'principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour.'

"Morality" is about right and wrong. "Sin" is about transgressing what is purported to be the will or law of a supernatural being (i.e right and wrong. ostensibly in the eyes of a god figure). Sometimes what "Morality" and "Sin" pertain to overlaps but they are different things. There doesn't need to be a supernatural element for there to be "morality" but there does for there to be the notion of "sin".

Originally posted by @christopher-albon
Define 'sin'.

Sin has been defined as "missing the mark" by many scholars and preachers. Suicide may be sin, my opinion, because it is giving up. To a Christian it would be seeing God as very limited and His ability to help.
To an unbeliever it seems basically the same, giving up.