Originally posted by FMFYes, I have made up my mind to believe the Holy Bible.
Despite your prolific posting, you come across as purely ideological (in so far as information is apparently chosen and/or rejected according to whether it fits with a pre-determined conclusion or assertion). You don't come across as being genuinely interested in knowing about the nature of the universe at all.
In terms of appreciating the actual wonder of c ...[text shortened]... ther than empowered by them. This is just my view having read many of your posts over the years.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
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Originally posted by twhiteheadThis is an interesting [albeit watchably amateur recording] of a talk given on exactly this topic.
No. We are however Eukaryota, which I believe blue algae are too.
You can hardly deny that we are apes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
Now look at the family tree:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey
Notice that 'Monkey' includes two groups, one of which is closer to us than the other. So us and some monkeys are Catarrhini, whereas other monkeys are Platyrrhini.
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Originally posted by FMFEh, there are 'pinheads' on both sides of the divide.
Originally posted by KingOnPoint on the Abundant Life thread
[b]Science doesn't put you with God. Science doesn't try to give you a relationship with God. Science has failed to answer the questions of how the universe was formed and how humanity came about. We cannot depend on science either, when it comes to disproving creation for both the universe and ...[text shortened]... uisitive humans to simply settle for explanations that you just so happened to have settled for?
Any random perusal of this forum should convince you of this.
Originally posted by FMFOf course it's not. It's certainly not impossible to be intelligent AND a Christian, despite what you see all too much of in this forum. This is what I mean when I say that some Christians here don't do the rest of us any favors.
This is is exactly the kind of superstitious thinking the OP is talking about. You've obtained this "knowledge" from ancient mythology expressed in allegories written by iron age tribesmen in one corner of the world. It's as if you are not actually interested in the reality of what you see as your God figure's creation. It also seems like this trenchant lack of ...[text shortened]... s kind of intellectual behaviour really necessary to be a Christian theist. I don't think it is.
I feel like someone who has just spent the last 5 years screaming into a hurricane, for all that people ever actually pay attention to what I say (and furthermore, why I say it).
Originally posted by FMFYou know, you'd probably get a lot more people "engaging the topic" if you yourself weren't known for "taking a meaningless swipe at people".
This is just you taking a meaningless swipe at people rather than engaging the topic.
I happen to agree with the OP, but don't let that stand in your way of "taking a meaningless swipe" at me.
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Originally posted by SuzianneI read and pay attention to what you say [when I'm around and reading the relevant thread]
Of course it's not. It's certainly not impossible to be intelligent AND a Christian, despite what you see all too much of in this forum. This is what I mean when I say that some Christians here don't do the rest of us any favors.
I feel like someone who has just spent the last 5 years screaming into a hurricane, for all that people ever actually pay attention to what I say (and furthermore, why I say it).
I just disagree with a lot what you say, on account of it being unsubstantiated and/or wrong.
It is indeed perfectly possible to be intelligent and Christian, and furthermore I am perfectly
happy to label you as an example of that.
You are however not remotely rational about any issue relating to your faith.
And neither is any other faith based believer.
And rationality, [sadly] has little to do with intellect, as long as you meat the bear minimum required
to handle the concepts, which is almost everyone.
Your beliefs are stupid.
That doesn't mean that you are.
Originally posted by SuzianneI'm not sure what you're on about. I have no complaints at all about the amount of engagement there's been on this topic.
You know, you'd probably get a lot more people "engaging the topic" if you yourself weren't known for "taking a meaningless swipe at people".
Originally posted by SuzianneI agree with Googlefudge's comments above. I know plenty of highly intelligent Christians. Members of my own family in fact, so I know them pretty well, and I have close relatives that were professors in the sciences in top universities. But being intelligent does not mean always being rational. I am yet to meet a Christian that does not have a science/theism dichotomy problem yet to solve.
Of course it's not. It's certainly not impossible to be intelligent AND a Christian, despite what you see all too much of in this forum. This is what I mean when I say that some Christians here don't do the rest of us any favors.
Originally posted by twhiteheadhttp://www.christianministriesintl.org/articles/Fundamental-Mistake-of-Theistic-Evolutionists.php
I agree with Googlefudge's comments above. I know plenty of highly intelligent Christians. Members of my own family in fact, so I know them pretty well, and I have close relatives that were professors in the sciences in top universities. But being intelligent does not mean always being rational. I am yet to meet a Christian that does not have a science/theism dichotomy problem yet to solve.