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Is theocracy the goal of conservatives?

Is theocracy the goal of conservatives?

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I mean specifically in the U.S. And by theocracy I mean of the Christian kind. And no, I don't mean ALL conservatives. I mean those that openly mix talk of God and the Bible with their talk of political diagnoses and solutions.

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@fmf said
I mean specifically in the U.S. And by theocracy I mean of the Christian kind. And no, I don't mean ALL conservatives. I mean those that openly mix talk of God and the Bible with their talk of political diagnoses and solutions.
You're pretty close, but not quite. Many conservatives in the U.S. use scripture as a political tool, but in reality, they have little interest following the teachings of Christ. For them, the Bible is simply a device they use to hang on to political power.

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@mchill said
You're pretty close, but not quite. Many conservatives in the U.S. use scripture as a political tool, but in reality, they have little interest following the teachings of Christ. For them, the Bible is simply a device they use to hang on to political power.
A Christian theocracy can be a form of - or approach to - governance imposed on a nation regardless of whether or not you are personally satisfied that its instigators and supporters are "following the teachings of Christ".

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@fmf said
I mean specifically in the U.S. And by theocracy I mean of the Christian kind. And no, I don't mean ALL conservatives. I mean those that openly mix talk of God and the Bible with their talk of political diagnoses and solutions.
There is definitely a Christian political agenda afoot in the land of the free, but I doubt they really want a bishop as head of state. So, no, technically, not a theocracy; but definitely a Christian agenda: no homosexual relations, no abortion, no sex outside of marriage between one man and one woman, no other genders than male and female, no swapping genders, teaching Genesis as if it were science in the public school system, teaching that evolution is ‚just a theory’ and didn’t really happen, etc.

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@fmf said
I mean specifically in the U.S. And by theocracy I mean of the Christian kind. And no, I don't mean ALL conservatives. I mean those that openly mix talk of God and the Bible with their talk of political diagnoses and solutions.
Religion is leveraged in many counties to control the masses, it always seems to have a deleterious impact on freedom and social well being. The US seems to be heading towards at least a partial theocracy. If there can be such a thing.

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@fmf said
I mean specifically in the U.S. And by theocracy I mean of the Christian kind. And no, I don't mean ALL conservatives. I mean those that openly mix talk of God and the Bible with their talk of political diagnoses and solutions.
The "goal" of conservatives is the rule of law based on the Constitution.

Political/theological motives notwithstanding. The establishment of a church/state was not intended by the founders, though many were heavily influenced by their faith in the Christian God.

And not to be dismissed is the constitutional fact that political leaders serve at the behest of the people.

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@divegeester said
The US seems to be heading towards at least a partial theocracy.
Never gonna happen.

Things are bad enough here without a bunch of Christian ayatollahs assuming power in the name of God. Religious leaders belong in the pulpit, and not in positions of political power.

My two cents.

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@josephw said
Never gonna happen.

Things are bad enough here without a bunch of Christian ayatollahs assuming power in the name of God. Religious leaders belong in the pulpit, and not in positions of political power.

My two cents.
But it is already happening, the right wing Christian agenda is driving a political narrative and revised laws. The overturning of Roe vs Wade is an obvious example.

Odd that you cannot see this.

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@josephw said
The "goal" of conservatives is the rule of law based on the Constitution.
I think the goal of the conservative powers that be in the U.S., currently, is to gain power even if the methods used are not in the spirit of the constitution because the agenda they espouse has become out of step with demographic change.

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@fmf said
I think the goal of the conservative powers that be in the U.S., currently, is to gain power even if the methods used are not in the spirit of the constitution because the agenda they espouse has become out of step with demographic change.
The trappings of theocracy and other culture war stuff are a distraction from the demographic crisis conservativism faces.

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