Originally posted by leunammiCan you tell us any other organisation that is marked by the name of Jesus and Jehovah?
Wow, just wow!
It's clear that no other organisation in the world fits Re 14:1
So, is it time for (Isaiah 2:2-4) In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. 3 And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. 4 He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.
Originally posted by roigamDoes it really matter?
Can you tell us any other organisation that is marked by the name of Jesus and Jehovah?
It's clear that no other organisation in the world fits Re 14:1
So, is it time for (Isaiah 2:2-4) In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hil ...[text shortened]... o pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.
So, what organisation do you think carries the names of both Jesus Christ
and his Father Jehovah God?
Jesus said concerning his Father:
(John 17:26) I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”
I'm sure you can name probably hundreds if not thousands of churches that use the name of Jesus.
How many of them teach the name of Jehovah as Jesus did?
If they don't, they are not following Jesus' example, are they?
They are not in union with Jesus, are they?
Originally posted by roigamMy initial comment to you was regarding this comment of yours.
So, what organisation do you think carries the names of both Jesus Christ
and his Father Jehovah God?
Jesus said concerning his Father:
(John 17:26) I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”
I'm sure you can name probably hundreds if not thousands of ch ...[text shortened]... t, they are not following Jesus' example, are they?
They are not in union with Jesus, are they?
It's always good to have the last word.
It gives evidence of it's truthfulness.
No one refutes it.
To which I replied, Wow... speaking to the arrogance of your comment.
I don't care about the names of churches or organizations, they don'the matter. It's what's in man's heart that will make the difference.
(Matthew 22:37) He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’
Jesus quoted this from:
(Deuteronomy 6:5, 6) You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your strength. 6 These words that I am commanding you today must be on your heart,
Originally posted by roigamI like this version.
(Matthew 22:37) He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’
Matthew 22:37 King James Version (KJV)
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Exactly!
That's why the Bible is so valuable.
Without it, we wouldn't know what Jesus did for us and
what his Father Jehovah taught us
(Matthew 16:15-17) He said to them: “You, though, who do you say I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did.
.(Matthew 3:17) Look! Also, a voice from the heavens said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.”
Originally posted by leunammi(Acts 4:12) Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”
No offense intended, but JW have cornered nothing.
So, where do you think we should go?
Originally posted by leunammi(Jeremiah 17:9) The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate. Who can know it?
My initial comment to you was regarding this comment of yours.It's always good to have the last word.
It gives evidence of it's truthfulness.
No one refutes it.
To which I replied, Wow... speaking to the arrogance of your comment.
I don't care about the names of churches or organizations, they don'the matter. It's what's in man's heart that will make the difference.
Howdy to all. How's it going Robbie? Great I hope. Sorry for vanishing and loosing touch but have gone thru a couple surgeries this last year and will be going in for a pretty serious one in a few months for a really mean prostrate, and have been busy spending as much time with mom as I can. She still mostly remembers me but not always. Alzheimer's is harder then anyone can imagine.... And this winter has made it very hard to get over the passes with all the snow we've had to see her.
Anyway wanted to comment on this by FMF. The bible clearly says that "all men sin and fall short". That would include all humans from Adam's offspring to the newest born baby on this planet as well of every Jehovah's Witnesses living today and in the past. Everyone of the faithful men and women in the bible that Jehovah loved and used, sinned everyday just as FMF himself does. I'm absolutely positive he has made many plans, conceived ideas of what he thought would happen in the future of his life and is not doubt still doing that. We all do. Has he always been correct? Has he nailed every plan of what he hoped would happen in the future given all the info he used to make those predictions, come true? Of course not.
Have higher authorities in positions of either leading humans or simply speaking of their ideas of what they think the future will be always come true? Hardly.
So why would anyone just take his word and think he has an inside claim on making correct statements on what the future will be and that others are wrong and that he is not? Remember this is one who has turned his back on God himself...
So again we are all humans and all make mistakes on what we think the future will be. . In fact if FMF is so upset with the JW's, how does he handle these examples of humanity as a general rule and still live here on this planet with all of us?
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Perhaps he should read this for some spiritual clarification: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20140501/predict-the-future/#?insight[search_id]=db724621-d8e9-49ce-ac44-f67b62922267&insight[search_result_index]=0
I'm sure he will never get over that we made a mistake. He chooses to let that blind him which is very sad seeing how he is just as imperfect.
Originally posted by galveston75Gman! you legend! I don't read FMF's posts any more, he slimed me once too often with his vile insinuations and misrepresentations. Its great to hear from you though, send me an email and let me know how you are doing 😀
Howdy to all. How's it going Robbie? Great I hope. Sorry for vanishing and loosing touch but have gone thru a couple surgeries this last year and will be going in for a pretty serious one in a few months for a really mean prostrate, and have been busy spending as much time with mom as I can. She still mostly remembers me but not always. Alzheimer's is ha ...[text shortened]... mistake. He chooses to let that blind him which is very sad seeing how he is just as imperfect.