Originally posted by FMF Do you seriously and sincerely not know what the reasons are for his criticism of the JW organization after two years on this forum? You asked for his reasons. Do you honestly not know what they are?
I asked Dive.
I did not ask FMF.
Did you miss that?
Originally posted by chaney3 In the same way your new found atheistic belief is superior to Christians, and how you mock people who believe the things that you yourself believed in, not too long ago.
I get stuck into debate and discussion with people who have different beliefs from me, for sure. Can you give me examples where you think what I was doing was "mocking people" [which sounds a bit like a pejorative label you are attaching to stances of mine you disagree with] as opposed to me engaging in debate and discussion?
Originally posted by chaney3 In the same way your new found atheistic belief is superior to Christians, and how you mock people who believe the things that you yourself believed in, not too long ago.
BUMP.
I get stuck into debate and discussion with people who have different beliefs from me, for sure. Can you give me examples where you think what I was doing was "mocking people" [which sounds a bit like a pejorative label you are attaching to stances of mine you disagree with] as opposed to me engaging in debate and discussion?
Originally posted by FMF divegeester can hardly have been more explicit and detailed about his criticisms of the JW organization. You are simply pretending not to know this.
My question was....to Dive, not you....how does he know he is right.
You, as an atheist, cannot answer this. Which is why I asked Dive.
When I have an atheist question, I will ask you, not Dive.
Originally posted by FMF You asked him for his reasons for criticizing the JW organization. Clearly, you already know what those reason are are. Why are you pretending not to?
Is he right?
Are his beliefs more right than JW?
That is my question...to him.
You are an atheist. You believe nothing, you are not qualified.
Originally posted by chaney3 Is he right?
Are his beliefs more right than JW?
Well, as you know full well already what his reasons are for criticizing the JW organization are, then the ball is in your court for you to see if you come to a realization of what you think is "right" on this issue. That is the nature of belief and you arriving at your beliefs. He has been explicit and detailed about what he believes. The question "Are his beliefs more right than JW?" is either [1] a question for you now to ask yourself, or [2] if the question is actually directed at divegeester himself - even though he has already been open about what he thinks is "right" - then it is a stupid and pointless question.
Originally posted by FMF Well, as you know full well already what his reasons are for criticizing the JW organization are, then the ball is in your court for you to see if you come to a realization of what you think is "right" on this issue. That is the nature of belief and you arriving at your beliefs. He has been explicit and detailed about what he believes. The question "Are his beli ...[text shortened]... already been open about what he thinks is "right" - then it is a stupid and pointless question.
FMF, I am not interested in your atheistic view.
Dive thinks his belief is correct, and JW is incorrect. Why? What proof?
Originally posted by chaney3 Dive thinks his belief is correct, and JW is incorrect. Why? What proof?
You ask "why" he believes the JW organization deserves criticism as if he has never explained "why". But he has explained his reasons, countless times. You know this. And yet you are pretending not to know it.
The question "Are his beliefs more right than JW?" is one you should be asking yourself, seeing as you know exactly what his beliefs are ~ and what his reasons for them are. Asking him the question comes across as you not wanting to address what you believe regarding the JW organization.
Originally posted by FMF You ask "why" he thinks his belief that the JW organization deserves criticism as if he has never explained "why". But he has explained his reasons, countless times. You know this. And yet you are pretending not to know it.
The question "Are his beliefs more right than JW?" is one [b]you should be asking yourself, seeing as you know exactly what his beli ...[text shortened]... omes across as you not wanting to address what you believe regarding the JW organization.[/b]
Originally posted by chaney3 I asked Dive, not you.
And I have asked you a some questions here about your behaviour and the rationale behind your contributions on this public forum this last hour or so, which you are simply dodging.
Originally posted by FMF And I have asked you a some questions here about your behaviour and the rationale behind your contributions on this public forum this last hour or so, which you are simply dodging.