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    John Kerry Losing Patience On Mideast Peace Talks

    Secretary of State John Kerry expressed frustration on Friday with the sputtering Mideast peace talks, taking an unusually pessimistic tone as he indicated the Obama administration may pull back from the aggressive dealmaking effort that has dominated much of his tenure.

    “There are limits to the amount of time and effort that the US can spend if the parties themselves are unable to take constructive steps,” Kerry told reporters in Morocco, adding that it was time for a “reality check.”

    The decision to re-evaluate the US negotiating role was viewed as evidence that no matter how much Kerry may want it, the longtime enemies do not appear politically willing or able to find the common ground necessary to achieve a lasting peace agreement.

    Gilead Sher, an Israeli Army colonel and lawyer who served as Israel’s lead peace negotiator a decade ago, said that Kerry made a mistake by constructing the talks around the goal of reaching a final deal.

    The goal could have been to give Palestinians more responsibilities in certain areas; or steps that Palestinians could take to reduce the public incitement to violence still prevalent in their schools; or the cessation of Israeli settlement construction in Arab neighborhoods of East Jerusalem.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2014/04/04/john-kerry-warns-may-pull-back-from-mideast-peace-talks-citing-need-for-reality-check/C1zWL6TOso8etkLbuH1TrO/story.html

    John Kerry Peace Push Falters

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    WILL THERE BE A WORLDWIDE BOYCOTT OF ISRAEL?

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    05 Apr '14 07:41
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    John Kerry Losing Patience On Mideast Peace Talks

    Secretary of State John Kerry expressed frustration on Friday with the sputtering Mideast peace talks, taking an unusually pessimistic tone as he indicated the Obama administration may pull back from the aggressive dealmaking effort that has dominated much of his tenure.

    [b]“There are limits to the amo ...[text shortened]... BI

    WILL THERE BE A WORLDWIDE BOYCOTT OF ISRAEL?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njf_a-ANI6E
    So...Armageddon is this weekend?
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    Threats of Boycott of Israel if Peace Talks Fail

    The US secretary of state, John Kerry, warned Israeli leaders of the consequences of a failure of current peace talks. "The risks are very high for Israel," he said. "People are talking about boycott. That will intensify in the case of failure."

    Kerry is right: more people are now talking about boycotting Israel than ever before. The issue is gaining traction even among US academic bodies, previously thought impervious due to the oft cited "unbreakable bond" between the two countries.

    Israel is angered by the boycott calls, and alarmed at the movement's momentum. The prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, recently launched an attack on Europe and its dark history. "I think the most eerie thing, the most disgraceful thing, is to have people on the soil of Europe talking about the boycott of Jews. In the past, antisemites boycotted Jewish businesses and today they call for the boycott of the Jewish state … the boycotters must be exposed for what they are. They're classical antisemites in modern garb."

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/04/boycott-israelis-palestine-economic-pain-demand-change
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Binyamin Netanyahu: "I think the most eerie thing, the most disgraceful thing, is to have people on the soil of Europe talking about the boycott of Jews. In the past, antisemites boycotted Jewish businesses and today they call for the boycott of the Jewish state … the boycotters must be exposed for what they are. They're classical antisemites in modern garb."
    But wouldn't the boycott affect Arab and Christian Israelis too and not just the Jewish ones?
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    05 Apr '14 08:07
    Originally posted by FMF
    But wouldn't the boycott affect Arab and Christian Israelis too and not just the Jewish ones?
    In the past, antisemites boycotted Jewish businesses and today they call for the boycott of the Jewish state...
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    05 Apr '14 08:11
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    In the past, antisemites boycotted Jewish businesses and [b]today they call for the boycott of the Jewish state... [/b]
    Yes but the so-called "Jewish State" includes non-Jews ~ Arab Muslims, Arab Christians, other Muslims and other Christians. Surely, in an effort to be accurate, and rather than simply play the Nazi Allusion card, it would be more true to say that a boycott of the Israeli state is being planned for the actions of the Israeli state ~ and not just its Jews?
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    05 Apr '14 08:121 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    In the past, antisemites boycotted Jewish businesses and [b]today they call for the boycott of the Jewish state... [/b]
    Would a boycott of Israel affect Arab and Christian Israelis too, or not? Is it to be targetted at only the Jewish citizens in Israel?
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    05 Apr '14 08:29
    Originally posted by FMF
    Would a boycott of Israel affect Arab and Christian Israelis too, or not? Is it to be targetted at only the Jews in Israel?
    Irrelevant.
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    05 Apr '14 08:32
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Irrelevant.
    Well it certainly is relevant as to whether or not Binyamin Netanyahu's "Europe and its dark history" rhetoric is valid.
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    05 Apr '14 13:04
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    [b]Threats of Boycott of Israel if Peace Talks Fail

    The US secretary of state, John Kerry, warned Israeli leaders of the consequences of a failure of current peace talks. "The risks are very high for Israel," he said. "People are talking about boycott. That will intensify in the case of failure."

    Kerry is right: more people are now talking about bo ...[text shortened]... theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/04/boycott-israelis-palestine-economic-pain-demand-change[/b]
    Israel is angered by the boycott calls, and alarmed at the movement's momentum. The prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, recently launched an attack on Europe and its dark history. "I think the most eerie thing, the most disgraceful thing, is to have people on the soil of Europe talking about the boycott of Jews. In the past, antisemites boycotted Jewish businesses and today they call for the boycott of the Jewish state … the boycotters must be exposed for what they are. They're classical antisemites in modern garb."


    Is it so strange that a nation (people) nearly wiped out in Europe 70+ years ago of whom some still survive to this day (on both sides), be alarmed or angry at such a proposal as a boycott? For many Jews who survived concentration camps, persecution, boycotting of their business... this has to be like Deja vu. Are we looking at what could be the beginning of Kristallnacht all over again but on a different level?
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    05 Apr '14 13:10
    Originally posted by yoctobyte
    Are we looking at what could be the beginning of Kristallnacht all over again but on a different level?
    And then...? Critics of Israel's policy are going to build extermination camps, "but on a different level"?
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    05 Apr '14 13:13
    Originally posted by FMF
    And then...? Critics of Israel's policy are going to build extermination camps, "but on a different level"?
    You tell me, I am only illustrating what must look awfully familiar to the Jewish people and what they went through.
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    05 Apr '14 13:16
    Originally posted by yoctobyte
    You tell me, I am only illustrating what must look awfully familiar to the Jewish people and what they went through.
    The possible boycott "look awfully familiar" to the Holocaust that Netanyahu is alluding to? Really?
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    05 Apr '14 13:23
    Originally posted by FMF
    The possible boycott "look awfully familiar" to the Holocaust that Netanyahu is alluding to? Really?
    It's a beginning my friend, it's a beginning.
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    05 Apr '14 20:15
    Originally posted by FMF
    Well it certainly is relevant as to whether or not Binyamin Netanyahu's "Europe and its dark history" rhetoric is valid.
    Well, let us pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

    Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

    (Psalm 122:6 KJV)
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