Originally posted by bill718
It is possible God spoke to the Jews through Moses and the Torah.
It is possible God spoke to the Gentiles through Jesus and the New Testament.
It is possible God spoke to the Arab tribes through Mohammed and the Koran.
It is possible these 3 groups simply have different versions the same message...π
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It is possible God spoke to the Jews through Moses and the Torah.
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Of course He did.
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It is possible God spoke to the Gentiles through Jesus and the New Testament.
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Of course He did this also. The church is
one new man where there cannot be Jew and Gentile though.
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It is possible God spoke to the Arab tribes through Mohammed and the Koran.
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My opinion is that God can use many things to "speak" to a person's heart.
You may see a movie and the Holy Spirit of God may use something about it to speak to you. You may hear a popular song and the Holy Spirit may use something in that song to convict you on a personal level.
I do not think Mohammed was genuine prophet. But that does not stop God from using something written in the Quran to speak to a God seeking heart.
God is not restricted in ways of getting through to man's conscience. I think He can use many things.
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It is possible these 3 groups simply have different versions the same message...
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Some people would claim that. But it is wishful thinking. The New Testament is the new covenant promised by the Hebrew Bible. It is a step forward. The Quran is an Arabic version of a Moses like law giver. This really a step back.
Here is what I think has happened. And I could be wrong. You see Abraham had a promise from God to have a son. When he and Sarah his wife went without a child they concocted a plan to use an Egyptian slave as the mother of Abraham's son. This was Ishmael the son of Hagar the Egyptian slave of Abraham.
We know from the Bible that God told Abraham that that was not the son that God had promised but was his own unfaithful effort. However God did bless Hagar and her son.
Now Isaac was born as the fulfillment to the aged couple. However, I think that Hagar the mother of Ishmael firmly planted it into her son's mind from very young something like this:
Don't you ever forget. Your father was the prophet Abraham. Don't let anyone ever tell you different. You are the son of the prophet Abraham. I was your mother. Your father the prophet Abraham had you by me. And don't you ever forget that God blessed you because you were Abraham's son"
Maybe Hagar the Egyptian mother of Ishmael instilled into her son's mind that he was the promise of God to Abraham for a child. At any rate the old saying is that "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world".
This concept got into the psyche of Ishmael and was passed on from generation to generation that there is some prophetic link between the father of the Arabs and the God of Abraham. And there is also a tension between the descendents of Ishmael and those of Isaac.
Now, I think this is one of the sources of the tension between Jews and Arabs. It is implanted within their belief systems going back to Abraham a real person who was spoken to by a real God.
I could be wrong. But I think this even has something to do with a Arab Moses like law giver alledgedly from God - Mohammed. It is based in this long standing competition of prophetic closeness of the ancestors of the Jews and that of the Arabs.