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    14 Jan '15 17:00
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/us/egypt-student-atheist-jailed/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion&iref=obnetwork

    Atheists should not go to Egypt. This is disgusting. See what religion gets you.
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    14 Jan '15 18:04
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/us/egypt-student-atheist-jailed/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion&iref=obnetwork

    Atheists should not go to Egypt. This is disgusting. See what religion gets you.
    actually i think its more of see what no religion gets you.
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    14 Jan '15 18:05
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    actually i think its more of see what no religion gets you.
    No, it is what being FORCED into a religion, what THAT gets you.

    Be religious or go to jail. One more reason why I want freedom FROM religion.

    Religion is the scourge of mankind.
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    14 Jan '15 18:26
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    actually i think its more of see what no religion gets you.
    Uh, you're holding the atheist responsible for this? The atheist is the victim for not having freedom of speech.
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    14 Jan '15 18:59
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    actually i think its more of see what no religion gets you.
    Sounds like you're in favour. I trust this is not actually the case?
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    14 Jan '15 19:14
    FYI

    Unofficial translation of the Egyptian constitution:

    http://www.sis.gov.eg/Newvr/Dustor-en001.pdf

    Article 2: "Islam is the religion of the State and Arabic is its official language. The principles of Islamic Sharia are the main source of legislation. "

    Article 64: "Freedom of belief is absolute. The freedom of practicing religious rituals and establishing worship places for the followers of Abrahamic religions is a right regulated by Law. "
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    14 Jan '15 19:55
    Originally posted by JS357
    FYI

    Unofficial translation of the Egyptian constitution:

    http://www.sis.gov.eg/Newvr/Dustor-en001.pdf

    Article 2: "Islam is the religion of the State and Arabic is its official language. The principles of Islamic Sharia are the main source of legislation. "

    Article 64: "Freedom of belief is absolute. The freedom of practicing religious rituals and ...[text shortened]... ablishing worship places for the followers of Abrahamic religions is a right regulated by Law. "
    So you can believe anything you want as long as it's in an Abrahamic religion.
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    14 Jan '15 20:22
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    So you can believe anything you want as long as it's in an Abrahamic religion.
    Yep, you better be one of the big 3 or you are in trouble. No Bahai's need apply, no Janes, no Rastas, Pastas, Hindu's, Buddhists, Eskimo's, Aborigine's. All go to jail. Convert or go to jail.
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    14 Jan '15 21:03
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Yep, you better be one of the big 3 or you are in trouble. No Bahai's need apply, no Janes, no Rastas, Pastas, Hindu's, Buddhists, Eskimo's, Aborigine's. All go to jail. Convert or go to jail.
    What if it's Mammon?
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    14 Jan '15 22:28
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    What if it's Mammon?
    Mammon don't allow that kinda 'ligion round here!
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    15 Jan '15 07:10
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Yep, you better be one of the big 3 or you are in trouble. No Bahai's need apply, no Janes, no Rastas, Pastas, Hindu's, Buddhists, Eskimo's, Aborigine's. All go to jail. Convert or go to jail.
    Wonder why they don't just fake it like many others do.
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    15 Jan '15 07:40
    Originally posted by C Hess
    Uh, you're holding the atheist responsible for this? The atheist is the victim for not having freedom of speech.
    I wasn't aware that Egypt had freedom of speech built into its laws.
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    15 Jan '15 07:41
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    No, it is what being FORCED into a religion, what THAT gets you.

    Be religious or go to jail. One more reason why I want freedom FROM religion.

    Religion is the scourge of mankind.
    I agree with you, if you are forced it isn't real.
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    15 Jan '15 08:13
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I wasn't aware that Egypt had freedom of speech built into its laws.
    And who can we blame for this? The constitution in egypt is supposed to guarantee absolute freedom of expression, and yet it has exceptions. One of those exceptions apparently spells: "Don't bad-mouth our religion mothafocka, or we gonna throw you in jail, YEAH!"

    I guess the atheist brought it on himself, yeah?
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    15 Jan '15 08:372 edits
    Originally posted by C Hess
    Uh, you're holding the atheist responsible for this? The atheist is the victim for not having freedom of speech.
    Well it depends. Egypt like many other predominately Islamic countries has blasphemy laws. Now if the person in question was simply supping his coffee and the police busted and jailed him for no apparent reason then no, that is a transgression of justice (the article is rather sketchy as to what actually happened). If on the other hand he was preaching atheism in the street then he can be held personally accountable, irrespective of whether under the Egyptian constitution he has hypothetically the legal right to do so.

    'all things are lawful but not all things are advantageous'. 1 Corinthians 10:23

    Thus if this was the scenario, I do not question the mans right to freedom of speech nor the legality of his stance. I question the wisdom of engaging in an act that is likely to get you jailed for three years.
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