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Jesus and the Father

Jesus and the Father

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Originally posted by @eladar
What of Jesus' existance in the time of the OT? Was he in existence? Was he in total agreement with God?
Jesus did not exist in the OT.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
Jesus did not exist in the OT.
John

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 [a]He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [b]comprehend it.

The Witness John
6 There [c]came a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 [d]He came [e]as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8 [f]He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light.

9 There was the true Light [g]which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [h]own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13 who were [i]born, not of [j]blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

The Word Made Flesh
14 And the Word became flesh, and [k]dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of [l]the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John *testified about Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me [m]has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.’” 16 For of His fullness [n]we have all received, and [o]grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth [p]were realized through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.


If Jesus was there from the beginning , where did he go?


Originally posted by @eladar
John

[b]being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [b]comprehend it.

The Witness John
6 There [c]came a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 [d]He came [e]as a witness, to testify about th ...[text shortened]... he Father, He has explained Him.


If Jesus was there from the beginning , where did he go?[/b]
How does this prove that Jesus is God?

It doesn't.


Originally posted by @chaney3
How does this prove that Jesus is God?

It doesn't.
The Word is Jesus. Go back and read the beginning of the Bible quote again. I fixed it.


Originally posted by @eladar
The Word is Jesus. Go back and read the beginning of the Bible quote again. I fixed it.
It doesn't make sense that Jesus is God.

Besides, the Bible is made up from ancient times.



Originally posted by @chaney3
It doesn't make sense that Jesus is God.

Besides, the Bible is made up from ancient times.
Of course if you believe the Bible is made up you should totally ignore it and go on with your life without it.


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Yes I do.

It was taken from previous cultures.

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Yes.

The Bible is plagiarism.

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You have been a Christian for over 30 years. And.....you are a horrible person.

Being a Christian is over rated.



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Your 'humility thread' is over.

You are an a-hole, but won't admit it.

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