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    21 Sep '09 05:41
    I was reading a Wikipedia article and I found an interesting line:

    Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullāh...is the founder of the religion of Islam...and is regarded by Muslims as a messenger and prophet of God...the last and the greatest law-bearer in a series of Islamic prophets as taught by the Qur'an 33:40–40. Muslims thus consider him the restorer of the uncorrupted original monotheistic faith...of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and other prophets.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad



    It has a lot of references that I didn't bother to check. More importantly, was Jesus' life as depicted by Christians consistent with his being a Muslim before Mohommad?

    Or do Muslims have to use the "the Bible is corrupted" argument to believe this?
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    What A Wonderful Savior is Jesus, my Savior.

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    21 Sep '09 12:17
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I was reading a Wikipedia article and I found an interesting line:

    [i]Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullāh...is the founder of the religion of Islam...and is regarded by Muslims as a messenger and prophet of God...the last and the greatest law-bearer in a series of Islamic prophets as taught by the Qur'an 33:40–40. Muslims thus consider him the restorer of ...[text shortened]... hommad?

    Or do Muslims have to use the "the Bible is corrupted" argument to believe this?
    Reading wikipedia? You must be bored.
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    21 Sep '09 19:05
    Originally posted by josephw
    Reading wikipedia? You must be bored.
    It looks like the Christians agree: Jesus was a Muslim.
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    21 Sep '09 20:22
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    It looks like the Christians agree: Jesus was a Muslim.
    Wasn't Islam started a long time after the death of Jesus?

    Jesus is considered a great prophet by the muslims, but that doesn't make him a muslim himself.
    It's like saying that Adam was a christian. Yes, Adam believed in the same god as the christians does (and jews, and muslims), but that didn't make him a christian thousands of years before Christ. Samo, samo.

    Many things have been said of Jesus: He's black, he's gay, he's a vegetarian, he's a socialist, he's buddhist, etc... But I've ever heard that he's a muslim too.
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    21 Sep '09 20:52
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Wasn't Islam started a long time after the death of Jesus?

    Jesus is considered a great prophet by the muslims, but that doesn't make him a muslim himself.
    It's like saying that Adam was a christian. Yes, Adam believed in the same god as the christians does (and jews, and muslims), but that didn't make him a christian thousands of years before Christ. ...[text shortened]... , he's a socialist, he's buddhist, etc... But I've ever heard that he's a muslim too.
    HE WAS JEWISH as both His parents (Joseph and Mary, were Jewish and they were both from the line of David).
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    22 Sep '09 05:51
    Originally posted by daniel58
    HE WAS JEWISH as both His parents (Joseph and Mary, were Jewish and they were both from the line of David).
    Joseph, yes, but he wasn't the biological father to little Jesus.
    Was Mary really of the Davidian lineage? Does it really say to in the bible?

    But right you are, Jesus wasn't christian, never became one, nor was he a muslim even if he became one of the most prominent prophets of Islam. So later he was an honorary muslim, but not in the time he was on two feet.
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    22 Sep '09 07:281 edit
    Muslims believe the religion they practice today is identical to the one practiced by Jesus and all the other prophets. It did not begin with Muhammed.

    Christianity is different - it claims the religion actually changed, and that the Jews failed to change with the times. The Muslims say the Jews are the ones who changed, corrupting the religion.
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    22 Sep '09 07:32
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Muslims believe the religion they practice today is identical to the one practiced by Jesus and all the other prophets. It did not begin with Muhammed.
    A Muslim would be one who had surrendered to God's will, so yes, Jesus would have been a Muslim, 'one who submits'. So would Lao Tzu, no doubt.
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    22 Sep '09 08:37
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Wasn't Islam started a long time after the death of Jesus?

    Jesus is considered a great prophet by the muslims, but that doesn't make him a muslim himself.
    It's like saying that Adam was a christian. Yes, Adam believed in the same god as the christians does (and jews, and muslims), but that didn't make him a christian thousands of years before Christ. ...[text shortened]... , he's a socialist, he's buddhist, etc... But I've ever heard that he's a muslim too.
    the muslims consider him a prophet of god. so from their point of view, he is muslim.
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    22 Sep '09 08:42
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    the muslims consider him a prophet of god. so from their point of view, he is muslim.
    So he is, at the same time, a muslim, a jew, but not a christian. Ironic, isn't it?
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    22 Sep '09 09:22
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    So he is, at the same time, a muslim, a jew, but not a christian. Ironic, isn't it?
    dude you are being kinda dense. for the muslims, jesus is neither the son of god(as the christians say) nor just a random dude with nice ideas(as the jews say). he is a prophet of allah, not the prophet but a prophet. therefore FOR THE MUSLIMS, jesus is just muslim. thats it.
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    22 Sep '09 09:27
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    dude you are being kinda dense. for the muslims, jesus is neither the son of god(as the christians say) nor just a random dude with nice ideas(as the jews say). he is a prophet of allah, not the prophet but a prophet. therefore FOR THE MUSLIMS, jesus is just muslim. thats it.
    I understand you perfectly. And I agree perfectly.
    For a muslim, he is a muslim, for a jew he is a jew, for a christian he is a christian. So he is what you yourself are.
    And this is the trend.
    For a gay, he's gay. For a vegan, he's vegan. For a black, he's black. For a rasta, he's rasta. And so on. I've heard it all.
    For me, he is just Jesus. Nothing more.
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    it comes from the gospel of barnabus, which was in the muslim faith, it goes losely like this jesus was taken down from the cross alive, married magdaline moved to another country [a muslim one] had children and was the voice in the wilderness to the prophet MUHAMMID. and does not agree john was the voice in the wilderness.
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    22 Sep '09 23:361 edit
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    A Muslim would be one who had surrendered to God's will, so yes, Jesus would have been a Muslim, 'one who submits'. So would Lao Tzu, no doubt.
    I have heard this before. Muslims say that to be Muslim means to submit to God, however, which God are the submitting too? Are they submitting to the one Mohammad outlined, or the one that the Bible outlined?

    Lets be honest about one thing, Christ is the prophet Christians follow and Mohammad is the one Muslims follow. Both would say they are submitted to God, only, one claims that Christ was God in the flesh who came to die for their sins and the other does not.
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