Jesus vs Muhammed - the REAL Clown's Challenge

Originally posted by whodey
Let me put it another way. What prophet, who is false and who proportts to be a prophet of the Biblical God, has 25% or more of the world population following him?

Make no mistake, both Christ and Mohammad are "game changers". In other words, they both sparked world wide followings of the Biblical God. However, Christ constantly pointed to the prophets, ...[text shortened]... me.

As for Mohammad, where are the prophesies other than the one about the false prophet?

So, what's your point?

Is this a boxing match between Jesus and Muhammad? I'd take my money on Muhammad. Jesus would warn me about the fire and brimstone before swinging a punch while Muhammad wouldn't even give the chance to convert.

Seriously, wtf is this thread? I can take scriptures out of context too. I do it all the time. Watch

Luke 12:49- I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

and the Quran

Chapter 41:34-35 - Repel evil with what is better. Then will he, between whom and thee was hatred, become as it were thy friend and intimate. And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint.


Edit: Muhammad, “He is not strong and powerful who throweth people down; but he is strong who witholdeth himself from anger”
"The ink of the scholar is more sacred than the blood of the martyr”

Jesus, "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Originally posted by Seitse
I have a neighbor who is on crack and claims
to be god's prophet.

We're not going to go around the world tagging
any nutcase who claims to be god's prophet, do
we? I mean, we could, but I have to go to the
office, man. Sheesh.

Hmm. I can find people who claim to be God easily enough.

Wallace Fard Muhammed
Charlie Manson

But prophets? Harder. Joan of Arc?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Hmm. I can find people who claim to be God easily enough.

Wallace Fard Muhammed
Charlie Manson

But prophets? Harder. Joan of Arc?

Good call. Ms. Joan is a pick, indeed.

But I get your point.

Originally posted by Seitse
Good call. Ms. Joan is a pick, indeed.

But I get your point.

I didn't know I had a point. What was it?

EDIT - Wait, I guess it was Fard's first disciple who proclaimed him Allah posthumously. So he'd be a prophet I guess.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I didn't know I had a point. What was it?

EDIT - Wait, I guess it was Fard's first disciple who proclaimed him Allah posthumously. So he'd be a prophet I guess.

Kind of.

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So, back to the challenge...

Can anybody find me the "golden rule" in the Qur'an, please?

Quran

2:113 The Jews say the Christians are wrong, and vice versa. Yet they both believe in the Scriptures.

2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion.

42:42 The way (of blame) is only against those who oppress mankind, and wrongfully rebel in the earth. For such there is a painful doom.

[109:1] Proclaim, “O disbelievers!”

[109:2] Neither do I worship what you worship.

[109:3] Nor do you worship Whom I worship.

[109:4] And neither will I ever worship what you worship.

[109:5] Nor will you worship Whom I worship.

[109:6] For you is your religion, and for me is mine.

So... where's the golden rule erga omnes?

Originally posted by Seitse
So... where's the golden rule erga omnes?

I posted it a couple posts up

"...and the Quran

Chapter 41:34-35 - Repel evil with what is better. Then will he, between whom and thee was hatred, become as it were thy friend and intimate. And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint.

..."

Originally posted by ua41
Is this a boxing match between Jesus and Muhammad? I'd take my money on Muhammad. Jesus would warn me about the fire and brimstone before swinging a punch while Muhammad wouldn't even give the chance to convert.

Seriously, wtf is this thread? I can take scriptures out of context too. I do it all the time. Watch

Luke 12:49- I am come to send fire on the ea ...[text shortened]... ies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Jesus is giving you a lifetime before judgement is he not?

Originally posted by gambit3
Jesus is giving you a lifetime before judgement is he not?

?

edit: where are you going with this?

Originally posted by Seitse
So... where's the golden rule erga omnes?

Mr Farrakhan, you are many things, but a clown you are not. Be silent. 😛

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Do you believe Jesus to be the Son of God?

Muslims do. More accurately Muslims believe that God created Jesus through Mary. I don't think that Muslims think Jesus is literally the son of God but rather a display of God's power.

Originally posted by Seitse
Kind of.

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So, back to the challenge...

Can anybody find me the "golden rule" in the Qur'an, please?

You can search for the bad or you can search for the good. Muhammad had a LOT of good things to say. Their religion is under attack just as our religion is. Jesus and Mohammad both follow/ed the same God.


Golden Rule:
You will not enter paradise until you have faith; and you will not complete your faith till you love one another.

Verily, Allah has revealed to me that you should adopt humility. So that no one may wrong another and no one may be disdainful and haughty towards another.

No man is a true believer unless he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.

Assist any person oppressed, whether Muslim or non-Muslim

Grace of God:
A sincere repenter of faults is like him who hath committed none.

Originally posted by Darax The Good
Muslims do. More accurately Muslims believe that God created Jesus through Mary. I don't think that Muslims think Jesus is literally the son of God but rather a display of God's power.

Yes, he was said to have been transported to Heaven.