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Originally posted by sasquatch672I could'nt imagine a defense to many of his positions. Reminds me of Kirksey's deliver me Jesus quotes thread, wow did I fill up pages with Pat's comments. Thanks for the reminder.
Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition, went on TV Sunday morning, George Stephanopolous's show, and made the claim that judges were "worse than a few guys with beards who flew planes into buildings". According to him, judges are "the most serious threat America has faced in nearly 400 years of history, more serious than al Qaeda, more s ...[text shortened]... ominent Christian in America today.
Uh, any Christian out there want to defend his position?
Originally posted by NyxieYes, it brought back memories of that thread. However, I recoil at the idea that Pat Robertson is the most prominent Christian in America. If you have no faith community and get your religon between Oprah and whatever soap opera is on and if you cannot think for yourself, then I can see how he might be the most prominent Christian for you.
I could'nt imagine a defense to many of his positions. Reminds me of Kirksey's deliver me Jesus quotes thread, wow did I fill up pages with Pat's comments. Thanks for the reminder.
Wiping a tear from my eye
Nyxie
Originally posted by sasquatch672Nope. No-one considers Pat Robertson to be perfect. If he blows something out of proportion, what does that have anything to do with anything. Do I bring up all the stupid things non-Christians have said?
Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition, went on TV Sunday morning, George Stephanopolous's show, and made the claim that judges were "worse than a few guys with beards who flew planes into buildings". According to him, judges are "the most serious threat America has faced in nearly 400 years of history, more serious than al Qaeda, more s ...[text shortened]... ominent Christian in America today.
Uh, any Christian out there want to defend his position?
Originally posted by ColettiAren't you kinda going a little easy on Pat? Nobody is saying that you think he is perfect. The point is this is the man that a great many xtians in America look up. He's up there with Billy Graham as the most famous evangelical xtian in America, and Pat is far more powerful. He has the ear of the White House and the majority party in Congress, and he has a TV channel that broadcast all over the county (CBN).
Nope. No-one considers Pat Robertson to be perfect. If he blows something out of proportion, what does that have anything to do with anything. Do I bring up all the stupid things non-Christians have said?
Originally posted by telerionPolitics. Pat's not a religious leader, he's a TV personality. He may have some influence but his following is no where near what Billy Graham. I think his influence is superficial. He's got less pull on the right than Ralph Nader has with the loony left tree huggers.
Aren't you kinda going a little easy on Pat? Nobody is saying that you think he is perfect. The point is this is the man that a great many xtians in America look up. He's up there with Billy Graham as the most famous evangelical xtian in America, and Pat is far more powerful. He has the ear of the White House and the majority party in Congress, and he ...[text shortened]... t as bad as you say?" Robertson said.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/10/09/robertson.state/
Originally posted by Colettithe religious and Conservatives (not necessarily the same thing)
Politics. Pat's not a religious leader, he's a TV personality. He may have some influence but his following is no where near what Billy Graham. I think his influence is superficial. He's got less pull on the right than Ralph Nader ha ...[text shortened]... (not necessarily the same thing) are everywhere! Bwahh hah hah! 😀
Originally posted by telerionI guess I don't fit the mold since I only agree with about 10% of your list. But I've always been in a minority of minorities.
[b]the religious and Conservatives (not necessarily the same thing)
So why do you waste a whole post blathering as if they were?
Let's not muddle things up with Conservative (which is an incredibly broad term (social? economic? au ...[text shortened]... rt the evangelicals and leave Calvanists out in the cold.
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Originally posted by sasquatch672This is exactly the type of rhetoric that fires up Robertson's masses. He uses it to great effect. It's a weapon. And with his media machine he can feed his hungry hordes daily with this dangerous nonsense.
Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition, went on TV Sunday morning, George Stephanopolous's show, and made the claim that judges were "worse than a few guys with beards who flew planes into buildings". According to him, judges are "the most serious threat America has faced in nearly 400 years of history, more serious than al Qaeda, more s ...[text shortened]... ominent Christian in America today.
Uh, any Christian out there want to defend his position?
Originally posted by telerionWhat you seem to be talking about are American right-wing Xian fundamentalist whackos. You might very well have right-wing Xian fundamentalists outside the US who do not like Ariel Sharon, who do not particularly care about American history etc.
[b]the religious and Conservatives (not necessarily the same thing)
So why do you waste a whole post blathering as if they were?
Let's not muddle things up with Conservative (which is an incredibly broad term (social? economic? authoritarian? theocratic?)). Let's focus in on what were are really talking about: Right-wing xtian fundamentalist wha ...[text shortened]... lephant. That's why they court the evangelicals and leave Calvanists out in the cold.
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Originally posted by lucifershammerYes, American ones. Maybe the Terri Schiavo bit was inaccurate. As I remember it now, that turned out to be more of a devote Catholic thing. I think the evangelicals were pretty evenly split.
What you seem to be talking about are American right-wing Xian fundamentalist whackos. You might very well have right-wing Xian fundamentalists outside the US who do not like Ariel Sharon, who do not particularly care about American history etc.
Also, why is Terri Schiavo mourning a criteria for right-wing fundamentalism?
Originally posted by geniusWeirdly enough, the only non-Catholic influential leaders I'd heard of were Jimmy Swaggart and Billy Graham. The most influential Catholic, of course, would be the Pope. 🙂
i don't live in america, and i've never heard of this pat guy. if you want an influential christain leader i'd say either rick warren or david wilkerson. both are well respected in the christain community, have exceptional faith, are good leaders, and i have a book by both of them on my shelf...