11 Mar '08 23:44>
Originally posted by StarrmanIf I know his future I know what the processes that brought him from point A to point B are, if those choices are still up for grabs, the future is not known. Why can't you see this? ---starrman----
Bull. God putting his power on hold to allow apologists to confirm their positions is a load of baloney. God's either omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent, or he's not. If he is, you're predetermined.
Knowing Alexander's future proves his choices were predetermined or his future could not be known. If I know his future I know what the processes ...[text shortened]... or the premises, being true, would invalidate it and you get a nonsense argument again.
But you DO know his future and the choices that lead him there are not up for grabs now . BUT**** the choices were up for grabs at that time. The only thing needed for free will to occur is the choice being up for grabs AT THAT POINT IN TIME. The fact that his future is now known to you and those choices are no longer (for you) "up for grabs" doesn't matter because at the time when it did matter they were.