1 edit
Muhammed doubted at one point that the messages he was getting were from God. He thought that they may be coming from jinn or demons (evil spirits).
His wife Khadija and her cousin Waraqah had to encourage him that he was really getting revelations like Moses.
Muhammed also questioned the divine origin of an experience he had when the angel was choking him and coercing him to recite the "revelations".
A respected Muslim biographer M.H. Haykal wrote of Muhammed's fear at one point that he might be demon possessed:
"Stricken with panic, Muhammed arose and asked himself, "What did I see? Did possession of the devil which I feared all along come to pass?" Muhammed looked to his right and his left but saw nothing. For a while he stood there trembling with fear and stricken with awe. He feared the cave might be haunted and that he might run away still unable to explain what he saw."
1 edit
Originally posted by utherpendragonWell lets see, one book was written by only one man over a short span of time as where the other was written by a great number of men over a great span of time.
is the Koran superior to the Bible and if so,why? Is the Bible superior and if so,why? Are they equal? Why?
What I find odd is that Mohammad conceeded that the Bible was inspired by God yet refutes many of its teachings. In fact, the Bible has nothing to say about Mohammad in a prophetic way yet he claims to be the last word on the Bible and the last prophet to boot. Therefore, no one who came before him or after him is able to question his positions.
Edit: I would say that the Bible may have one thing to say about Mohammad in a prophetic way. That is, if he indeed is the "false prophet" spoken of in Revelation.
1 edit
Originally posted by Proper KnobReally?
If it's truth you're after, try the science forum. Only conjecture, speculation and dogma 'round here.
You don't think there's a truck load of speculation, conjecture, and dogma over on the Science Forum ?
How rather smug and naive of you.
Originally posted by twhiteheadMan is fallible.....that is, at least, from the Christian perspective. If you ask a Muslim, Mohammad was "perfect". I suppose if you want to believe that then you should have no problem with the Koran. However, if not, it would then behoove us to have more than one voice pointing to the truth to ascertain what it actually is.
How does this count as a point in favor of either book?
1 edit
Originally posted by whodeyConcerning Muhammed being perfect then - When Muhammed suspected that he was getting messages from jinn (demons) was he "perfect"?
Man is fallible.....that is, at least, from the Christian perspective. If you ask a Muslim, Mohammad was "perfect". I suppose if you want to believe that then you should have no problem with the Koran. However, if not, it would then behoove us to have more than one voice pointing to the truth to ascertain what it actually is.
When he doubted the experience of being choked by the angel Gabriel to recite the revelations, was he perfect then or mistaken ?
Originally posted by whodeyAre you suggesting that books written by more than one author are always better than those written by one author? Or only when it suits your preconceived ideas?
Man is fallible.....that is, at least, from the Christian perspective. If you ask a Muslim, Mohammad was "perfect". I suppose if you want to believe that then you should have no problem with the Koran. However, if not, it would then behoove us to have more than one voice pointing to the truth to ascertain what it actually is.
1 edit
Originally posted by jaywillOne can ask a similar question about the corporate-friendly gibberish "John" came out with that gave rise to the Book of Revelation: was "John" mistaken when he recites the revelations?
When he doubted the experience of being choked by the angel Gabriel to recite the revelations, was he perfect then or mistaken ?
I mean, the deception of the Book of Revelation was predicted earlier in the Gospels: "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." (Matthew.)
1 edit
Originally posted by jaywillI'm not jumping on you whodey, but it is just a couple of questions someone needs to consider. I have.
Concerning Muhammed being perfect then - When Muhammed suspected that he was getting messages from jinn (demons) was he "perfect"?
When he doubted the experience of being choked by the angel Gabriel to recite the revelations, was he perfect then or mistaken ?