Originally posted by Rajk999
It is unscriptural to believe that it is impossible to lose ones salvation. There are far too many warnings.
Of course the very word "salvation"
has nuances of meaning in the Bible.
For example - "So then, my beloved, ... work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; For it is God who operates in you both the willing and the working for his good pleasure." (Phil. 2:12,13)
In the context this exhortation is about the "salvation"
from murmoring, self exaltation, rivalry and some of the other soul ailments bothering the Christians in the church in Philippi.
Can one lose then, this "salvation"
? Sure if one neglects to cooperate with the inward working God - "for it is God who operates in you both the willing and the working for His good pleasure."
God's "good pleasure"
obviously is not ONLY the sinner's forgiveness. His "good pleasure"
includes the salvation from the old nature that he may be "blameless and guileless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked generation, among whom you shine as limunaries in the world ..." (v.15)
... Is he still awake ? Is Rajk999 still awake? Long post here.
Anyway, this is a "salvation"
from "murmurings and reasonings"
- something I we Christians are often plagued with. This "salvation"
is other than receiving eternal redemption - eternal life.
No realistic person would say "OSAS" in terms of the salvation from these defeated bad moods of the untransformed soul.
Christ said: Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
I believe that this passage is much like the previous one in Philppians 2:12
. It is important to realize that God's good pleasure is not simply that the sinner be forgiven forever.
For the kingdom people in Matthew to become cast out is not to perish forever. But concerning the kingdom testimony they have become like salt that has lost its taste.
Salt is a preservative. And "the salt of earth"
means that the kingdom people of Jesus should be an influence on the world preventing the whole society from becoming rotten, as food would rot without salt as a preservative.
They cannot save the world. They can hold back the downward slide into corruption somewhat. They should. If they join the downward descent into corruption, they have become ones losing the saltiness.
Now are such ones condemned to eternal perdition? In the parallel passage in Luke
we read -
"Therefore salt is good; but if even the salt becomes tasteless, with what will its saltiness be restored? It is fit neither for the land nor for the manure pile, they will throw it out. He who has ears to hear, let him hear. (Luke 14:34,35)
To not be fit for the land means to not be fit for the normal church life which is God's farm (1 Cor. 3:9)
To not be good for the manure pile is to not be qualified for eternal damnation, the second death as the filthy place in the universe.
Neither good for the land or the manure pile must mean no good for the church's testimony or the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8;22:15)
They will be thrown out temporarily from the kingdom of God, especially from the glory of the kingdom in the thousand year millennial kingdom.
They are saved from eternal perdition, but because they have failed to renounce the earthly things to be the salt of the earth and lost their function in the kingdom of God. Being unfit for the kingdom will cause some believers to be put aside for discipline at the judgment seat of Christ.