1. Subscribersonhouse
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    31 Mar '07 00:41
    Hey, it can't hurt and if there really is a god who answers prayers......
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    prayers are a way of focusing the mind, connecting to your inner truth, only if you believe you can come to answers and strength to realise them yourself can you be free from the delusion that things will come to you out of thin air. nothing wrong with believing in a medium that will help you arrive at your own capable self. sometimes belief can inhibit realisation of self. this is when atheism can help in restoring a sense of reality. detachment from habitual wanting or desire (physical, mental or spiritual) to have something without effort is folly. so yeah, why not believe in nothing but realise everything you desire to be.
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    31 Mar '07 01:37
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Hey, it can't hurt and if there really is a god who answers prayers......
    What makes you think you need help? Most of the world aready doesn't believe in God. I think!
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    31 Mar '07 02:25
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Hey, it can't hurt and if there really is a god who answers prayers......
    That depends on what the atheists are trying to accomplish. Do you know?
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    31 Mar '07 03:27
    Originally posted by biloba
    prayers are a way of focusing the mind, connecting to your inner truth, only if you believe you can come to answers and strength to realise them yourself can you be free from the delusion that things will come to you out of thin air. nothing wrong with believing in a medium that will help you arrive at your own capable self. sometimes belief can inhibit reali ...[text shortened]... ut effort is folly. so yeah, why not believe in nothing but realise everything you desire to be.
    detachment from habitual wanting or desire (physical, mental or spiritual) to have something without effort is folly.

    This sentence confused me. Do you mean to say that such detachment is folly, or that the desire for something without effort is folly? In the context of your post, I would think the first...
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    31 Mar '07 05:08
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Hey, it can't hurt and if there really is a god who answers prayers......
    Why do you want to pray if you're not interested in God anyway?

    But you want to pray - this indicates that you want to talk to God - but remember in your prayers, God is not a wish-engine.... he will do what HE wants, not what you want....
  8. Subscribersonhouse
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    31 Mar '07 05:34
    Originally posted by Flower04
    Why do you want to pray if you're not interested in God anyway?

    But you want to pray - this indicates that you want to talk to God - but remember in your prayers, God is not a wish-engine.... he will do what HE wants, not what you want....
    So 'he' will do what YOU want, to ban atheism?
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    31 Mar '07 05:41
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So 'he' will do what YOU want, to ban atheism?
    this is either a stupid post, or i am missing something because i do not see where he says he wants to ban atheism.
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    31 Mar '07 06:51
    In bad times, I'm tempted by paganism a la Harry Flashman who'll pray to any god that helps.
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    31 Mar '07 12:49
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Hey, it can't hurt and if there really is a god who answers prayers......
    You know prayers are not always answered with a yes, they can also be answered with a no.
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    31 Mar '07 13:14
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    You know prayers are not always answered with a yes, they can also be answered with a no.
    Then it does stand a chance of being answered in the positive?
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    31 Mar '07 13:45
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Then it does stand a chance of being answered in the positive?
    How about praying God's will, that has the best chance of getting a yes.

    2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not WILLING that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
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    31 Mar '07 14:33
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    How about praying God's will, that has the best chance of getting a yes.
    what if you know what God has willed for you but you do not like it?
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    31 Mar '07 14:41
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    what if you know what God has willed for you but you do not like it?
    oh well then.
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