Originally posted by josephw
[b]"The resurrected god-man myth is straight out of Hellenic history."
Can you site an example of a Hellenic myth that tells of a resurrected "god-man"?
How do you know that the resurrection of Jesus is a myth?[/b]
"...Christianity's biggest rival during the first few centuries of its existence was Mithraism. Mithraism, the most popular of the mystery religions, had Persian roots and involves the worship of the Sun God, Mithra. During this time, Mithraism was virtually the official religion of the Roman Empire, being very popular especially with the military.
Many rituals and beliefs of Mithraism seemed so closely related to the Christian one that it becomes impossible to deny its influence on nascent Christianity. The Mithraists had a special day dedicated to their god. It was the first day of the week, which they appropriately called Sun-day, the "day of our Lord". Mithra was the God of the upper and nether world and it is he who will judge men's deeds. The Jewish thinker, Philo had already identified the Logos with the Sun, it was therefore natural and inevitable that the early Christians should identify Jesus with such a symbol. Sunday became established as the Lord's Day for the Christians as well. From this observance of Sunday, the myth eventually evolved to connect the rising of Jesus with that day. It is worth noting that the Mithraist ritual involve the liturgical representation of the death, burial (also in a rock tomb!) and resurrection of the god Mithra.
Other contemporary mystery religions no doubt contributed to the evolution of Christian mythology. The Syrian cult of Adonis also had a large following during the time of early Christianity. Adonis, which means The Lord (Hebrew: Adonai), was represented in the liturgy as dying and then rising again on the third day. And in this liturgy it was the women who mourned his death and who found him risen on the third day.
The Egyptian cult of Osiris had a similar belief; for it was Osiris who was dead and rose again on the third day.
Early Christian liturgy was also clearly absorbed and imported from the mystery religions. The Greco-Roman cult of Dionysius had their God, born of the virgin, Semele, being torn to pieces by the Titans. He was then resurrected by his mother. In commemorating his sacrificial death, the devotees ate bread and wine to represent his body and blood. The Mithraist too had a eucharistic celebration very similar to the Christian one. And it was also Mithraism who first came up with the sign of the cross, made on the forehead. It was the supreme symbol of their belief. The worship of Osiris too involve veneration of the Osirian cross, the emblem of their god.
In fact the beliefs, rituals and liturgy of the mystery cults, which antedated Christianity, so closely paralleled the Christian ones that the early Church Fathers insisted that the devil must have had a hand in these cults!
The historical origin of the central events of Christianity did not begin with the actual resurrection of a Galilean Jew. It began when Jewish religious philosophy was grafted onto Greco-Roman paganism."
Fuller references found here:
http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/paganrising.html
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- Believing God can literally be a man, is idolatrous (using your language). It's primitive mythological thinking these days. Meanings can be wrought from the myths and applied to life, but men do not rise from the dead. If they do revive in a short time, they were simply not dead but in a deep coma and death was incorrectly diagnosed. It happens, but rarely.
- Any one can make up a fantasy and then ask the same question you ask - how do you KNOW there are no leprechauns at the end of the garden? That's too tricky by half. One cannot and does not KNOW anything that does not happen or exist. Extraordinary claims require YOU to persuade it happened. Your evidence is very subjective and arising from varying and contradictory stories in writings that appear fully almost a century later after this supposed event happened. You may continue to believe it. I enjoy the myth and its deeper meanings but there it stops, sorry.