1. Standard membergalveston75
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    28 Jan '13 17:12
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    If and Whenever Human Life (your family's and/or yours) is threatened, Shoot...

    Twice, Once to the Head and Once to the Heart. It's the Proven Procedure to Kill.

    Do so Efficiently. Take Lessons Beforehand. Gun Kept Accessible at All Times.
    .
    Really? This is your view?
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    28 Jan '13 17:24
    Originally posted by FMF
    galveston75 has often asserted that all these terrible things are much worse now and that things were better in the past. I personally don't think that this is true. I am curious as to whether he thinks that the story he has cited is an indication that the world is just getting worse and worse, or whether such killings have always been a feature of everyday life and may even perhaps have been more prevalent in the past.
    the question has been asked of you why you think it might be more prevalent now than in any other epoch, not Galveston.
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    28 Jan '13 17:251 edit
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    If and Whenever Human Life (your family's and/or yours) is threatened, Shoot...

    Twice, Once to the Head and Once to the Heart. It's the Proven Procedure to Kill.

    Do so Efficiently. Take Lessons Beforehand. Gun Kept Accessible at All Times.
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    So now we see the real Bobby eh?

    So much for the Christian who loves us and wants to give us the good news.

    How does this view of yours fit in with God's plan for you Bobby?

    Having said all that I do agree with the point of view, but then I am not religious
    like Bobby claims to be.

    I agree with the sheriff. I would be packed every day like Josey Wales.
    Shoot to kill that's what I say. Make sure the b*******d doesn't live to sue you.

    You either live life right or else you get punished. Jail or bullets it's all
    the same to me.

    And if you take me out I'll sure as hell make sure you're dead too.


    Do you feel lucky??????????????????????????????????????????????????????


    Damned straight!!!
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    28 Jan '13 17:30
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    the question has been asked of you why you think it might be more prevalent now than in any other epoch, not Galveston.
    I don't think it is more prevalent now than in the past. I think it was more possible to kill people at the drop of a hat with impunity in the past than it is now. I think, despite all the contemporary tabloid headlines and YouTube clips, and the 24/7 news-advertising cycle, society was more violent and citizens were more in danger from arbitrary and fiat violence in the past than they are now.
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    28 Jan '13 17:31
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Speak to the hand buddy....
    So you are not willing to discuss the question I have raised?
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    28 Jan '13 17:40
    Originally posted by FMF
    I don't think it is more prevalent now than in the past. I think it was more possible to kill people at the drop of a hat with impunity in the past than it is now. I think, despite all the contemporary tabloid headlines and YouTube clips, and the 24/7 news-advertising cycle, society was more violent and citizens were more in danger from arbitrary and fiat violence in the past than they are now.
    ok thank you.
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    28 Jan '13 17:47
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    ok thank you.
    I have put my take on it out there. Unfortunately, galveston75 is not willing to discuss the question I have raised and has gone, instead, for the "Speak to the hand buddy..." approach.
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    28 Jan '13 17:48
    Originally posted by FMF
    So you are not willing to discuss the question I have raised?
    Not with you.......
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    28 Jan '13 18:01
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    If and Whenever Human Life (your family's and/or yours) is threatened, Shoot...

    Twice, Once to the Head and Once to the Heart. It's the Proven Procedure to Kill.

    Do so Efficiently. Take Lessons Beforehand. Gun Kept Accessible at All Times.
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    How do you determine whether or not a life is threatened? Is it enough that an intruder is armed, or do you need something a little more concrete before you open fire?
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    28 Jan '13 23:01
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Shoot...

    Twice, Once to the Head and Once to the Heart.
    It's the Proven Procedure to Kill.

    You missed out a few steps before shoot
    1. Ask your visitor to wait.
    2. Go to study.
    3. Unlock desk drawer.
    4. take out gun and ammo.
    5. Load gun.
    6. test fire.
    7. return to visitor.
    Then shoot

    ... or do you greet everyone at the door with a loaded weapon?
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    29 Jan '13 00:18
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    You missed out a few steps before shoot
    1. Ask your visitor to wait.
    2. Go to study.
    3. Unlock desk drawer.
    4. take out gun and ammo.
    5. Load gun.
    6. test fire.
    7. return to visitor.
    [b]Then shoot


    ... or do you greet everyone at the door with a loaded weapon?[/b]
    If you negotiate the minefield in the drive
    And beat the dogs and cheat the cold electronic eyes
    And if you make it past the shotgun in the hall,
    Dial the combination, open the priesthole
    And if I'm in I'll tell you what's behind the wall.

    roger waters - the final cut

    🙂
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    29 Jan '13 01:341 edit
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    How do you determine whether or not a life is threatened? Is it enough that an intruder is armed, or do you need something a little more concrete before you open fire?
    Ideally;

    Study local statutory and case law on charges of excessive force in self defense.

    Here is one discussion.

    http://www.shouselaw.com/self-defense.html#1

    See if the lessons support or challenge your beliefs about what is morally justified.

    To the extent that you think reasonable, modify your environment, train your children, etc. to limit situations that require the use of force in self defense.

    Become proficient in the methods of self defense you might have to use, including moderate ones.

    Realize that if and when the time comes, you will not have much time to deliberate.
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    29 Jan '13 01:45
    Double barreled shotgun between the eyes at the front door.




    Hello............can I help you??????
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    29 Jan '13 06:16
    Originally posted by galveston75
    A local sheriff in Milwaukee, Wisconsin has issued a public statement telling all the residents to buy weapons and arm themselves because the police department has been cut back because of budget issues. He says the public needs to take the law into their own hands to protect their "property" because the police may not show up in time if an intruder happ ...[text shortened]... neighbor with no questions asked if you were to take one of these items from your neighbor?
    Shouldn't this be in your "guns" thread? Or maybe "debates"?
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    29 Jan '13 09:23
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Shouldn't this be in your "guns" thread? Or maybe "debates"?
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