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Originally posted by CalJust
Red pill or blue pill?
There is often a YELLOW pill, which was not obvious before, maybe not to either party, and often only after real outside-the-box thinking.
Try to avoid dualism like the plague.
Try to avoid dualism like the plague.
What other way as an alternative, besides dualism, should one choose then?
If you propose another way, don't look now, but that is dualism.
Originally posted by LemonJello".., our mental attitudes are not somehow wholly separate from reality but also intimately entangled up with it."
To change one's perspective or attitude on some matter is also to change reality in some respect, owing to the fact that our mental lives are a component of reality. This is something that I think vistesd has referred to as the "inseparable entanglement" of our mentality and reality. That is to say, our mental attitudes are not somehow wholly separate f ...[text shortened]... t. Yes it can; but it would seem to be a very poor, impoverished approach to meeting that goal.
Well, don't just leave it hanging there! 😉
I believe "reality" exists independent of our attitudes as a constant. Reality doesn't change no matter what we may think of it. On the other hand, reality shapes who we are and how we think as long as our perceptions are unencumbered by false ideas.
It is a false idea that we shape reality by what and how we think. If one thinks our thoughts can change reality, I will sell you the Brooklyn bridge dirt cheap.
That isn't to say we have no say in what one can do with reality.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemI would say yes, since this a spiritual forum. The way I see it is not the way you see it. Let me explain....faith in a promise God made is my reality, even if I do not see it manifested in the senses realm.
...is not something one is supposed to do. However, if the current reality is not acceptable, is it possible that living in denial of that reality is a method of changing it?
Since faith is required in something I cannot see, it is difficult obviously. This is what Atheist have difficulty understanding about Christians.
Let's say a person has an incurable disease, according to man's standard. Then that person hears about faith in Christ, reads the promise that Christ has already provided healing. Then when said person, believes the promise, he/she gets healed. I have seen this many times in others and myself.
Here are some examples...
http://www.awmi.net/extra/healing
Originally posted by CalJustI dont think the red-blue pill thing is dualism. Well maybe some will interpret it like that , but I didn't.
Red pill or blue pill?
There is often a YELLOW pill, which was not obvious before, maybe not to either party, and often only after real outside-the-box thinking.
Try to avoid dualism like the plague.
the true red pill contains the blue pill within it - if you want to go down the duality argument 🙂
Originally posted by checkbaiterI'm a bit surprised at this response. As a theist, I would think you consider God's existence a reality. Perhaps you didn't mean your post to sound that way.
I would say yes, since this a spiritual forum. The way I see it is not the way you see it. Let me explain....faith in a promise God made is my reality, even if I do not see it manifested in the senses realm.
Since faith is required in something I cannot see, it is difficult obviously. This is what Atheist have difficulty understanding about Christians. ...[text shortened]... s many times in others and myself.
Here are some examples...
http://www.awmi.net/extra/healing
Originally posted by josephwMaybe a candidate for the Lake of Fire and Brimstone.
What will a live coward be when he is dead? 🙄
"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
(Revelation 21:8)