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@ghost-of-a-duke saidIf I have faith in you, does my faith make you intangible? I hope not! I have faith that you will put FMF in his place on love, tangibly.
Love is an emotion centred on a tangible thing. Faith is an emotion/hope based on something intangible. Both though are not based on decision.
He must have been a lovable Christian, at one time.
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@pettytalk saidIf I have faith in you, does my faith make you intangible?
If I have faith in you, does my faith make you intangible? I hope not! I have faith that you will put FMF in his place on love, tangibly.
He must have been a lovable Christian, at one time.
A person, like a wife or a child, for example, is tangible: they constitute a physical presence [unless one is talking about a memory]. Jesus, for example - who has been dead for 2,000 years - is something intangible: a notion, a concept, or an idea that inspires the aspirations that comprise faith. This is the tangible-intangible contrast that Ghost of a Duke was alluding to. I say this just in case your wordplay is, indeed, the best you can do.
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@fmf saidWho then decides for those that have "decided" to have faith?
"You can decide to get into situations where you might fall in love. You can decide to do what it takes to nurture and preserve love. But you can't decide to be in love with someone. Something very similar applies to having faith."
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I take it that you mean to say that there's no free will when it comes to love and faith?
Who makes us fall in love, if it's not our own decision? Cupid?
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@fmf saidI never do my best, since I'm lazy, by nature. I just do enough, as the occasion mandates. Perhaps enough is good enough for you, I hope.
A person, like a wife or a child, for example, is tangible: they constitute a physical This is the tangible-intangible contrast that Ghost of a Duke was alluding to. I say this just in case your wordplay is, indeed, the best you can do.
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@pettytalk saidThe way I see it, people don't decide to have faith.
Who then decides for those that have "decided" to have faith?
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@pettytalk saidThis silly question makes it clear that you did not understand the exchanges we had on this a couple of weeks ago.
I take it that you mean to say that there's no free will when it comes to love and faith?
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@pettytalk saidI don't think it's a decision. I think both faith [in supernatural things] and love are things we realize we have and not things we decide to have.
Who makes us fall in love, if it's not our own decision? Cupid?
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@pettytalk saidI wish you were a better poster. The forum would benefit from it.
I never do my best, since I'm lazy, by nature. I just do enough, as the occasion mandates. Perhaps enough is good enough for you, I hope.
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@fmf saidDecide and decision are closely related. Have and decide are far apart, unless one decides to have, at which time, in having, one no longer decides to have, having it already.
I don't think it's a decision. I think both faith [in supernatural things] and love are things we realize we have and not things we decide to have.
Perhaps if you learned how to express yourself better, the forum would benefit from your worthy language skills. You don't say what you mean, and don't mean what you say. We can't help but love you, as we always have you.
We posses your attention, no matter what we say. Say it with love, and mean it, if you claim to have it. And for Christ's sake, get your faith back, if you say you had it.
Perhaps it's a matter of you never having it. As they say, you can't lose what you never had.
Checkout Obsessive-compulsive disorder, you may have it. Ask your physician if OCR is right for you.
Save the wedding bells for my returning,
Keep my lover's arms outstretched and yearning,
Please be sure the flame of love keeps burning.
That's enough, o worthy compulsive poster, it's time for us to part, because what you have can be highly contagious.
Good-bye!
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@pettytalk saidYou either don't understand my point of view, or you are pretending not to.
Decide and decision are closely related. Have and decide are far apart, unless one decides to have, at which time, in having, one no longer decides to have, having it already.
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@pettytalk saidThis is nonsense.
Perhaps if you learned how to express yourself better, the forum would benefit from your worthy language skills. You don't say what you mean, and don't mean what you say.