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    How are we expected to love God when 'God' is an abstract concept?
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    @brush said
    How are we expected to love God when 'God' is an abstract concept?
    Hi brush, not seen you posting much in recent years.

    In response to your question I would retort that the God of the bible isn’t an abstract concept as he is comprehensively described in the creation accounts, his dealings with early man’s civilisations, in poems and songs, his principles and wisdoms are laid out in proverbs and of course he manifested in the flesh in the New Testament books.

    Over to you.
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    @brush said
    How are we expected to love God when 'God' is an abstract concept?
    You show love for God by keeping his commandments

    For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:.. (1 John 5:3 KJV)
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    @rajk999 said
    You show love for God by keeping his commandments

    For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:.. (1 John 5:3 KJV)
    I think he is questioning the abstract nature of God.
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    @divegeester said
    I think he is questioning the abstract nature of God.
    I think the man is capable of replying for himself.
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    the dart hits the wire
    and deflects off the board
    a just missed bullseye
    what a dissonant chord!
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    @rookie54 said
    the dart hits the wire
    and deflects off the board
    a just missed bullseye
    what a dissonant chord!
    Profound.
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    @brush said
    How are we expected to love God when 'God' is an abstract concept?
    You could love and care for Gods creation and everything in it, if you believe in that model.
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    @divegeester

    I was thinking that we have lots of accounts of God's working but these are all man made. We never actually see God, we only hear of him/her/it from scriptures.
    I think we can admire, appreciate nature and all the automatic things we don't have to think about; breathing, blood circulation and plants growing etc.
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    @brush said
    We never actually see God, we only hear of him/her/it from scriptures.
    Maybe the laws of physics are "God". In which case, we can see it all the time all around us.
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    @brush said
    @divegeester

    I was thinking that we have lots of accounts of God's working but these are all man made. We never actually see God, we only hear of him/her/it from scriptures.
    I think we can admire, appreciate nature and all the automatic things we don't have to think about; breathing, blood circulation and plants growing etc.
    I fully agree. You are completely free to not believe in a God and appreciate the wonder of the natural world.

    I am completely free to indulge myself in whatever apparent delusion I choose and recognise a creator’s hand in the same natural world.

    Does this seem unfair to you in any way?
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    @divegeester

    I do agree except for the blind belief in 'the creator's hand'. This suggests a belief has already been consolidated?
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    @brush said
    @divegeester

    I do agree except for the blind belief in 'the creator's hand'. This suggests a belief has already been consolidated?
    What does "blind belief" mean to you?

    Also I don't understand what you mean by a belief which is "consolidated"?
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    @divegeester

    Belief without evidence. I don't intend to continue this topic, there will always be arguments for and against.
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    @brush said
    @divegeester

    Belief without evidence. I don't intend to continue this topic, there will always be arguments for and against.
    The great thing about that excuse, is that it works for most topics. 🙂
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