Malignant self-love

@fmf said
Christian to an atheist: "It is the malignant self-love that one is unwilling to lay down the independent soul life that the eternal love in the eternal Lover may save."

According to Christians here, what is "malignant" about the beliefs and viewpoints of the atheists in this community?

Is malignant self love the same things as malignant trolls on this site?

@whodey said
Is malignant self love the same things as malignant trolls on this site?

While trolling could be driven by that I would be extremely wary about making that identification.

@whodey said
Is malignant self love the same things as malignant trolls on this site?

I think terms like "malignant self-love" and "malignant troll" are used by people like you and sonship for dealing with posters who disagree with you or who are unimpressed by you.

@deepthought said
There's a ton of stuff about narcissism of YouTube. There are thousands of videos with titles like: "The 9 signs of a narcissist.", "The 5 ways to spot a covert narcissist.", etc. etc.. They divide narcissism into two subcategories, grandiose or overt, and vulnerable or covert. Anyone wanting to know more can look it up on Wikipedia, or watch this guy's channel (I goog ...[text shortened]... re.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/user/RioGrande51
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Youc9KkwU

NPD is well-known in psychology. I've always considered it rare in the gen. pop., but it does show up with a slightly higher frequency among politicians, and is often co-existing with what is sometimes called an "alpha" personality (although not always).

@suzianne said
Has someone in this forum actually said this?

Yes. sonship.

@suzianne said
NPD is well-known in psychology. I've always considered it rare in the gen. pop., but it does show up with a slightly higher frequency among politicians, and is often co-existing with what is sometimes called an "alpha" personality (although not always).

According to Wikipedia the prevalence is of the order of 1%. I'm not sure what you mean by "alpha personality". Is this the same idea as "alpha (fe)male" and "beta (fe)male"?

@deepthought said
According to Wikipedia the prevalence is of the order of 1%. I'm not sure what you mean by "alpha personality". Is this the same idea as "alpha (fe)male" and "beta (fe)male"?

I think Suzianne is conflating 'narcissism' with 'NPD'.

@fmf said
I think Suzianne is conflating 'narcissism' with 'NPD'.

Imagine conflating narcissism and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Obviously anyone doing this must be off the beam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder


Where did you get your psychology degree again? How many box tops did it cost you?

@suzianne said
Imagine conflating narcissism and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Obviously anyone doing this must be off the beam.

I was responding to what DeepThought had put to you.

@suzianne said
Where did you get your psychology degree again?

What is the extent of the correlation, in your view, between "Narcissistic Personality Disorder" and what you refer to as "an alpha personality"? What proportion of the latter do you think might be diagnosed with "NPD"?

@deepthought said
According to Wikipedia the prevalence is of the order of 1%. I'm not sure what you mean by "alpha personality". Is this the same idea as "alpha (fe)male" and "beta (fe)male"?

And thus why I said it was rare.

Okay, this is a big topic, and I am at work right now, so I'll have to get back to this later.

@suzianne said
And thus why I said it was rare.

Approximately what proportion of adult males do you perceive as being "alpha" type?

@suzianne said
Where did you get your psychology degree again? How many box tops did it cost you?

Will you be asking sonship this too? He seems to correlate atheism with what he calls "malignant self-love". On page 1 you seemed on the verge of saying something by way of objection to it, but then you realized it was sonship who'd said it.

@suzianne said
Imagine conflating narcissism and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Obviously anyone doing this must be off the beam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder


Where did you get your psychology degree again? How many box tops did it cost you?

What do you think of the OP especially in light of it being a Christian here he used the term as an insult?

@deepthought said
According to Wikipedia the prevalence is of the order of 1%. I'm not sure what you mean by "alpha personality". Is this the same idea as "alpha (fe)male" and "beta (fe)male"?

Considering that your original post in this thread was about other topics of "pop" psychology, I assumed you would be familiar with the concept of the "alpha" personality. It is basically taking an idea which is prevalent in the field of Ethology, pack dominance, and attributing it to humans. This is really not a topic seriously considered in psychology, but since you went there, I went with you in an attempt to make myself understood. I believe you are familiar with it, as your reply suggests, and others in these forums have brought it up and so I bring it up because others are obviously familiar with it, and all I get in return is "Huh? What do you mean?"

My response wasn't "all that" anyways. Forget I mentioned it.