12 May 13
Originally posted by RJHindsHe may be beastly or inhuman in his actions, but he is not the beast we are speaking of here. Satan is never called a "beast" in the Bible.
[b]And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.
(Revelation 12:3 NKJV)
I think one could say a dragon is a beast and this dragon is identified in verse 9.
So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives ...[text shortened]... tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvbgaw972c4
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The Instructor
12 May 13
Originally posted by SuzianneWhere does it say this 7 years before armegeddon in the Bible?
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh." -- Matthew 25:13, KJV
We don't know. We are told the AntiChrist will come to power approx. 7 years before the Battle of Armageddon, when Christ is to return as a 'Messiah-Warrior' to vanquish Satan and build the 'New Jerusalem'.
3.5 years into his reign, he wil ...[text shortened]... e himself to be God. The Mark and the persecution of Christians will start in earnest.
12 May 13
Originally posted by galveston75It's rather obvious. The seven years of the Tribulation are counted from the Anti-Christ signing the treaty with Israel at the restored Temple (Matthew 24:15) to the return of Christ at the end of the Battle of Armageddon. However, no one can know the exact day and hour, so it surely won't be exactly seven years.
Where does it say this 7 years before armegeddon in the Bible?
Stop worshiping the words of the Bible as a god and use what it says. That's what it's for, not for worship. There is much not laid out verbatim in the Bible, but that doesn't mean we haven't been warned (it's there if you know where/how to look, but this also means you need to honor the meaning of the Bible over its words, this is where the Bible-worshipers stumble).
12 May 13
Originally posted by RJHindsMaybe, maybe not. The Beast, the AntiChrist is one man, with the power to deceive many, who would rule the world. My Magic 8-ball says, "Not enough information. Try again later."
[b]The apostle John wrote concerning the last hour, "the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour...
Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son ...[text shortened]... , YES.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
The Instructor
12 May 13
Originally posted by SuzianneHumm, that's a new one to me. But to clear your opinion here, I do not in anyway worship the Bible. It is ouir guide for many things and one of them is on worshipping our god Jehovah "alone". I worship no one but God and am not a Bible worshipper. Do you understand my statement?
It's rather obvious. The seven years of the Tribulation are counted from the Anti-Christ signing the treaty with Israel at the restored Temple (Matthew 24:15) to the return of Christ at the end of the Battle of Armageddon. However, no one can know the exact day and hour, so it surely won't be exactly seven years.
Stop worshiping the words of the ...[text shortened]... nor the meaning of the Bible over its words, this is where the Bible-worshipers stumble).
So it is 7 years or not? You seem to be confused?
But the rest of your post here is very confusing and in truth doesn't agree with the rest of the Bible.
12 May 13
Originally posted by galveston757 years and 3 months could be construed as 7 years. So could 6 years and 9 months. We are cautioned to remain alert and watchful.
So it is 7 years or not? You seem to be confused?
But the rest of your post here is very confusing and in truth doesn't agree with the rest of the Bible.
Confusing to you, maybe. And do you mean your Bible, or my Bible?
There is no confusion. The Tribulation will last seven years, between the rise of the AntiChrist and the coming of Christ. This much should be clear to anyone.
12 May 13
Originally posted by galveston75The beasts don't just refer to any government or world ruler. The beasts refer to those empires or kingdoms that are influenced by Satan to be hostile to the true God and to Israel and God's people. It is believed that the coming Antichrist will rule a beast empire and will be under the direct control of Satan and therefore, he is often referred to as a beast, as well, just as Satan is referred to as a serpent or dragon beast.
Again, all the beast in the Bible within this subject are referring to governments or world rulers.
The Instructor
12 May 13
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Originally posted by RJHindsDo you think that the AntiChrist could actually be the Son of Satan, as Christ is the Son of God?
The beasts don't just refer to any government or world ruler. The beasts refer to those empires or kingdoms that are influenced by Satan to be hostile to the true God and to Israel and God's people. It is believed that the coming Antichrist will rule a beast empire and will be under the direct control of Satan and therefore, he is often referred to as a beast, as well, just as Satan is referred to as a serpent or dragon beast.
The Instructor
12 May 13
Originally posted by SuzianneI've never thought of that idea. I have doubts that the Antichrist wll be a true only begotten son of Satan. However, Satan may be able to counterfeit some type of son of Satan, but there is not indication of that in scripture. I believe it is more likely to be one that Satan has possessed. If the theory of the Islamic beast is correct and Allah is actually Satan that they worship, then Allah has no son.
Do you think that the AntiChrist could actually be the Son of Satan, as Christ is the Son of God?
The Instructor
12 May 13
Originally posted by RJHindsWell you are getting closer bit by bit but Satan is never said the be the beast in the Bible, so stop saying it does.
The beasts don't just refer to any government or world ruler. The beasts refer to those empires or kingdoms that are influenced by Satan to be hostile to the true God and to Israel and God's people. It is believed that the coming Antichrist will rule a beast empire and will be under the direct control of Satan and therefore, he is often referred to as a beast, as well, just as Satan is referred to as a serpent or dragon beast.
The Instructor
The only entities that are referred to as "beast" are nations or a rulership of nations.
Stop making this stuff up or what shread of tiny respect you have here, if it even exist at all, is lost.
Why have you not shown a scripture here to show he is indeed called a 'beast"?
12 May 13
Originally posted by RJHindsOMG, this just keeps getting weirder and weider.
I've never thought of that idea. I have doubts that the Antichrist wll be a true only begotten son of Satan. However, Satan may be able to counterfeit some type of son of Satan, but there is not indication of that in scripture. I believe it is more likely to be one that Satan has possessed. If the theory of the Islamic beast is correct and Allah is actually Satan that they worship, then Allah has no son.
The Instructor
The antichrist is not a single being or a son of a being but simply someone or something that is against Christ. Satan even has you confused about this...