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Marx, Nietzsche and religion

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Although very different philosphers, Marx and Nietzsche were extremely congruent on their views on religion, are these two minds right or is the church?

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Originally posted by Serendipity
Although very different philosphers, Marx and Nietzsche were extremely congruent on their views on religion, are these two minds right or is the church?
I think you should start by explaining why their views are supposedly congruent, rather than just assuming it as a given.

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Originally posted by Serendipity
Although very different philosphers, Marx and Nietzsche were extremely congruent on their views on religion, are these two minds right or is the church?
Is this church you are talking about the Roman-Catholic Church ?

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Originally posted by Serendipity
Although very different philosphers, Marx and Nietzsche were extremely congruent on their views on religion, are these two minds right or is the church?
Neitzsche's attitude to Jesus in The Anti-Christ is fascinating; he seems to see him as his one worthy "foe".

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Originally posted by rwingett
I think you should start by explaining why their views are supposedly congruent, rather than just assuming it as a given.
Its too long to go into intricate detail, but for now this should suffice:

Nietzsche indirectly agreed with Marx’s disdain of any projection of humanity onto the ‘real’ world (the ideal realm), and shared the belief that religion was not only a human creation - “What? Is man merely a mistake of God’s? Or God merely a mistake of man’s?” (Nietzsche in Love 1986: 122) - but also the symptom of a disease: “To divide the world into ‘real’ and an ‘apparent’ world, [. . .] in the manner of Christianity [. . .] is only a suggestion of decadence – a symptom of declining life” (Nietzsche Twilght of the Idols 1888: 49).

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Originally posted by Serendipity
Its too long to go into intricate detail, but for now this should suffice:

Nietzsche indirectly agreed with Marx’s disdain of any projection of humanity onto the ‘real’ world (the ideal realm), and shared the belief that religion was not only a human creation - “What? Is man merely a mistake of God’s? Or God merely a mistake of man’s?” (Nietzsche in L ...[text shortened]... uggestion of decadence – a symptom of declining life” (Nietzsche Twilght of the Idols 1888: 49).
Communism is dead! The church thrives.

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Originally posted by josephw
Communism is dead! The church thrives.
No, no, I think they are looking for something a little more philisophical such as, "If communism dies and there is no one to witness it dying, has it really died or did it really exist to begin with?" Now were talk'in! Let the debates resume.

Edit: You see, simple truths are no good, it needs to be a brain teaser of some kind to have any interest.

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Originally posted by Serendipity
Its too long to go into intricate detail, but for now this should suffice:

Nietzsche indirectly agreed with Marx’s disdain of any projection of humanity onto the ‘real’ world (the ideal realm), and shared the belief that religion was not only a human creation - “What? Is man merely a mistake of God’s? Or God merely a mistake of man’s?” (Nietzsche in L ...[text shortened]... uggestion of decadence – a symptom of declining life” (Nietzsche Twilght of the Idols 1888: 49).
Too long to go into? It's your thesis, fer cryin' out loud. If it's too long for you to go into, then why should anyone else be bothered? Give us more than a few sound bites to work with, why don't you?

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