Spirituality
06 Oct 07
06 Oct 07
Originally posted by AThousandYounghahaha
"People of the Book" (Jews, Muslims, Christians) often refer to the creation of matter. This concept breaks the Law of Conservation of Mass-Energy. Thus, these religions are in conflict with science.
Discuss.
Maybe it's an error of translation. Or you can make the interpretation of matter as "energy-matter".
06 Oct 07
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungPerhaps it'll help to put science into perspective. Just as we look back at science 150 years ago and marvel at how little was understood then, people 150 years from now will look back and marvel at how little is understood now. Sometimes it seems that many are under the delusion that we understand so much. There are many pardigm shifts to be made.
"People of the Book" (Jews, Muslims, Christians) often refer to the creation of matter. This concept breaks the Law of Conservation of Mass-Energy. Thus, these religions are in conflict with science.
Discuss.
06 Oct 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI suppose creating life is in conflict with science as well seeing as we cannot create life as well.
"People of the Book" (Jews, Muslims, Christians) often refer to the creation of matter. This concept breaks the Law of Conservation of Mass-Energy. Thus, these religions are in conflict with science.
Discuss.
06 Oct 07
Originally posted by whodeyIt's not in conflict. Science will create fully artificial life with time, don't you believe?
I suppose creating life is in conflict with science as well seeing as we cannot create life as well.
Where did all matter come from is a lot more complicated. We are trying to find out what happened 14 billion yrs ago. It's like being a grain of sand in a beach, not being able to move and trying finding out what's happening in the other side of the world using a very small telescope. The conditions are harsh for science, we don't have it all written in a book, you know?
I hope some of the religious guys start seeing what's reality when we create life. It's gonna be a step as big as discovering we are not the center of the universe.
06 Oct 07
Originally posted by serigadoSo how do you determane what is beyond the restrains of physics? How do you determane what is beyond our capacity?
We can't do anything beyond the restrains of the laws of physics.
We can do everything that is possible for our capacities.
06 Oct 07
Originally posted by whodeyYou don't determine nothing. The world works a certain way, we try to find out how. From what he learned until now we can make some inferences of what are the laws of physics. For some reason beyond the scope of science the universe seems to follow some basic principles. Maybe those rules change with time, maybe not, we don't know. But we are learning from observing, experimenting, imagining. Now, the sky's the limit!
So how do you determane what is beyond the restrains of physics? How do you determane what is beyond our capacity?
07 Oct 07
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Originally posted by serigadoAnd that is my point. All we know is what we can observe which is finite to say the least. Really anything is possible.....
You don't determine nothing. The world works a certain way, we try to find out how. From what he learned until now we can make some inferences of what are the laws of physics. For some reason beyond the scope of science the universe seems to follow some basic principles. Maybe those rules change with time, maybe not, we don't know. But we are learning from observing, experimenting, imagining. Now, the sky's the limit!
07 Oct 07
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungIsn't this what the experiment at the end of November in Geneva is supposed to clarify?
"People of the Book" (Jews, Muslims, Christians) often refer to the creation of matter. This concept breaks the Law of Conservation of Mass-Energy. Thus, these religions are in conflict with science.
Discuss.
CERN (if you want to google it).
Basically, and this is my translation of what they're gonna do, they're gonna shoot energy into a large tube and when these energy particles collide (and they'll be goin' hella fast, let me tells ya) they're gonna discover why some energy stays energy (sunlight, par example) and some energy becomes matter.
And voila, science will create life. And it will be life Jim, but maybe not as we know it.
The downside of the experiment, seemingly, is that there's an off-chance that they create a black hole and we all get sucked into Switzerland. Not, mind you, the worst way to go.